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	<description>Looking at Muslim women in the media and pop culture</description>
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		<title>By: Aynur</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/09/let-muslim-women-speak/#comment-1892</link>
		<dc:creator>Aynur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@forsoothsayer
Check out &quot;&quot;Believing Women&quot; in Islam: Unreading Patriarchal Interpretations of the Qur&#039;an&quot; by Asma Barlas.
I agree with Sobia, it seems like too many Muslims (I would think the majority I know) follow those interpretations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@forsoothsayer<br />
Check out &#8220;&#8221;Believing Women&#8221; in Islam: Unreading Patriarchal Interpretations of the Qur&#8217;an&#8221; by Asma Barlas.<br />
I agree with Sobia, it seems like too many Muslims (I would think the majority I know) follow those interpretations.</p>
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		<title>By: Sobia</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/09/let-muslim-women-speak/#comment-1895</link>
		<dc:creator>Sobia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>forsoothsayer:

Although you bring up good points, they are relevant only to certain interpretations of Islam. The problems and inequalities you speak of occur as a result of following specific interpretations of Islam. And unfortunately in today&#039;s world it does seem that far too many Muslims follow that interpretation.

To be honest, I don&#039;t believe those interpretations that you mention are at all how Islam was meant to be practiced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forsoothsayer:</p>
<p>Although you bring up good points, they are relevant only to certain interpretations of Islam. The problems and inequalities you speak of occur as a result of following specific interpretations of Islam. And unfortunately in today&#8217;s world it does seem that far too many Muslims follow that interpretation.</p>
<p>To be honest, I don&#8217;t believe those interpretations that you mention are at all how Islam was meant to be practiced.</p>
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		<title>By: Fatemeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fatemeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are Ms. Janmomahed&#039;s beliefs.

The main point of her essay is to ask non-Muslims to stop speaking for Muslim women. Perhaps she gives her interpretation of Islam to back up the idea that not all Muslims believe the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are Ms. Janmomahed&#8217;s beliefs.</p>
<p>The main point of her essay is to ask non-Muslims to stop speaking for Muslim women. Perhaps she gives her interpretation of Islam to back up the idea that not all Muslims believe the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: forsoothsayer</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2008/09/let-muslim-women-speak/#comment-1894</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while i found the comments equally incorrect, it is stretching believability (and the literacy of others) to say that &quot;Islamic theology has a strong framework for a blueprint of gender equality.&quot; While i realize THAT is a non pc, non MMW-friendly thing to say, i feel like we&#039;re constantly ignoring the elephant in the room.

&quot;However, in order to know God, there are at least 99 qualities or names, that are characterised as masculine and feminine, and both are equally critical in learning about and approaching the divine.&quot; The qualities, and indeed any reference to God, are all masculine. &quot;Al Rahim&quot; for example, is a masculine adjective. the feminine of it would be &quot;Al Rahima&quot;.

&quot;Neither is marriage supposed to be a subjugation for women, but a completion and partnership for both man and woman. Every man that is held up as an example has a woman by his side (or you could argue it is vice versa) who is exemplary in her own right: Adam with Eve, Rachael with Moses, Mohamed with his wife Khadijah.&quot; Moses, as far as I know, was never married to a Rachel. That was Jacob, and she was only one of his 4 wives. Which brings us to the main example: the Prophet. It is naked dissembling to ignore the many wives he took...were they all completing partners to him? And what about the current permissibility of polygyny? Please don&#039;t bother to say that it is limited to the equal treatment of wives, which is unlikely. the upshot is, they can do it. By contrast, Muslim women cannot take more than one husband.

regarding the standard marriage contract: in fact, a woman MAY stipulate that she has the power to divorce the man, but the standard contract usually states that he has the right to verbally divorce her without cause by simply saying so. Should a Muslim woman wish to secure a divorce without having stipulated that she also has the &quot;esma&quot; - power to divroce - it results in a long and protracted legal battle, in most countries practising shariah.

Other instances of inequalities that are NOT due to patriarchal interpretations:
- inequality of inheritance
- unequal weight as witnesses in court
- the vastly different requirements to dress modestly.

Unless someone can tell me how the above amounts to &quot;gender equality&quot; it would be nice if people refrained from alleging that. Just pointing out some indisputable truths does not make me an islamophobe either, popular as it may be to point fingers at those making factual points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while i found the comments equally incorrect, it is stretching believability (and the literacy of others) to say that &#8220;Islamic theology has a strong framework for a blueprint of gender equality.&#8221; While i realize THAT is a non pc, non MMW-friendly thing to say, i feel like we&#8217;re constantly ignoring the elephant in the room.</p>
<p>&#8220;However, in order to know God, there are at least 99 qualities or names, that are characterised as masculine and feminine, and both are equally critical in learning about and approaching the divine.&#8221; The qualities, and indeed any reference to God, are all masculine. &#8220;Al Rahim&#8221; for example, is a masculine adjective. the feminine of it would be &#8220;Al Rahima&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Neither is marriage supposed to be a subjugation for women, but a completion and partnership for both man and woman. Every man that is held up as an example has a woman by his side (or you could argue it is vice versa) who is exemplary in her own right: Adam with Eve, Rachael with Moses, Mohamed with his wife Khadijah.&#8221; Moses, as far as I know, was never married to a Rachel. That was Jacob, and she was only one of his 4 wives. Which brings us to the main example: the Prophet. It is naked dissembling to ignore the many wives he took&#8230;were they all completing partners to him? And what about the current permissibility of polygyny? Please don&#8217;t bother to say that it is limited to the equal treatment of wives, which is unlikely. the upshot is, they can do it. By contrast, Muslim women cannot take more than one husband.</p>
<p>regarding the standard marriage contract: in fact, a woman MAY stipulate that she has the power to divorce the man, but the standard contract usually states that he has the right to verbally divorce her without cause by simply saying so. Should a Muslim woman wish to secure a divorce without having stipulated that she also has the &#8220;esma&#8221; &#8211; power to divroce &#8211; it results in a long and protracted legal battle, in most countries practising shariah.</p>
<p>Other instances of inequalities that are NOT due to patriarchal interpretations:<br />
- inequality of inheritance<br />
- unequal weight as witnesses in court<br />
- the vastly different requirements to dress modestly.</p>
<p>Unless someone can tell me how the above amounts to &#8220;gender equality&#8221; it would be nice if people refrained from alleging that. Just pointing out some indisputable truths does not make me an islamophobe either, popular as it may be to point fingers at those making factual points.</p>
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		<title>By: saviya.c</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a clarification, I think it may be the Moses and Tziporah pairing and the Jacob and Rachel pairing you mean to refer to. Biblical Moses and Rachel lived in two different times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a clarification, I think it may be the Moses and Tziporah pairing and the Jacob and Rachel pairing you mean to refer to. Biblical Moses and Rachel lived in two different times.</p>
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