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	<title>Comments on: Is Harassment Hilarious? Nile Comedy TV Thinks so</title>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethar,  thanks for putting time into describing the ads for those of us with slow internet connections. They really are a sad statement about how so many people - men and women - perceive this disgusting situation.

Ahmed, comedy is great but not everything is an appropriate subject for comedy.  Did you think the Danish cartoons about Islam and the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) were funny???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethar,  thanks for putting time into describing the ads for those of us with slow internet connections. They really are a sad statement about how so many people &#8211; men and women &#8211; perceive this disgusting situation.</p>
<p>Ahmed, comedy is great but not everything is an appropriate subject for comedy.  Did you think the Danish cartoons about Islam and the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) were funny???</p>
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		<title>By: ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love comedy and all the people love comedy 
and the group of nile comedy will make to all in the group laughing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love comedy and all the people love comedy<br />
and the group of nile comedy will make to all in the group laughing</p>
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		<title>By: Sad Ads on Nile Comedy TV &#171; It Begins with Me. It Begins with You. It Begins with Us.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sad Ads on Nile Comedy TV &#171; It Begins with Me. It Begins with You. It Begins with Us.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from Muslimah Media Watch &#8211; on the new government sponsored comedy channel in Egypt.  The channel&#8217;s been playing [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from Muslimah Media Watch &#8211; on the new government sponsored comedy channel in Egypt.  The channel&#8217;s been playing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hicham Maged</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hicham Maged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Lozah: I believe it&#039;s all about mentalities and the &#039;socio-economic&#039; factors are not that important as media always magnify. For example, the &quot;Birel Ads&quot; you mentioned are simply targeting wealthy people not the poor ones (in terms of Egyptian rates not international) so it&#039;s about minds and what is found there.

@ Ethar: Be my guest; we&#039;ve &quot;Bata Stores&quot; for that matter :)

@ Mary: You hit the nail on the head by the last phrase regarding justifing their behavior but majority don&#039;t understand this. You&#039;ll find those problems at every nation&#039;s backyard due to how we &#039;precive&#039; women in general everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lozah: I believe it&#8217;s all about mentalities and the &#8216;socio-economic&#8217; factors are not that important as media always magnify. For example, the &#8220;Birel Ads&#8221; you mentioned are simply targeting wealthy people not the poor ones (in terms of Egyptian rates not international) so it&#8217;s about minds and what is found there.</p>
<p>@ Ethar: Be my guest; we&#8217;ve &#8220;Bata Stores&#8221; for that matter <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Mary: You hit the nail on the head by the last phrase regarding justifing their behavior but majority don&#8217;t understand this. You&#8217;ll find those problems at every nation&#8217;s backyard due to how we &#8216;precive&#8217; women in general everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like what Hicham had to say.  

I am not a Muslim and living in the US and I am all for Americans looking into our own backyard to get rid of our sexism.  I think we can do better than just saying that women were &quot;asking for it&quot; based on how we&#039;re dressed, and I am sick of harrasment going on here.  Or thinking that just because we&#039;ve made a certain amount of progress when it comes to gender issues we should just stop right here, yep, all problems solved.  I also hate stereotypes and don&#039;t think sexist jokes being pervasive in the media is a trivial thing either, because there are always those people who don&#039;t think it&#039;s a joke and it justifies some people&#039;s behavior in their mind.

good post all together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like what Hicham had to say.  </p>
<p>I am not a Muslim and living in the US and I am all for Americans looking into our own backyard to get rid of our sexism.  I think we can do better than just saying that women were &#8220;asking for it&#8221; based on how we&#8217;re dressed, and I am sick of harrasment going on here.  Or thinking that just because we&#8217;ve made a certain amount of progress when it comes to gender issues we should just stop right here, yep, all problems solved.  I also hate stereotypes and don&#8217;t think sexist jokes being pervasive in the media is a trivial thing either, because there are always those people who don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a joke and it justifies some people&#8217;s behavior in their mind.</p>
<p>good post all together.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethar El-Katatney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethar El-Katatney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Safiyyah: Thanks! Response is nada. No reaction at all.

@ Hicham: If I may add: &quot;tegry wara bel shebsheb kaman&quot; :)

@ Salma: And what was the reaction? Nothing

@ Chris: Yes, it often gets physical too. And if the woman ever does anything, people look at &lt;i&gt;her&lt;/i&gt; in shock for daring to say anything...she should suffer in silence.

@ Lozah: Shukran! I&#039;ve missed writing on here, walahi. Yes, I have seen the Birell ads, and I actually wrote a post about them on MMW a year ago. You can read it here:&lt;a href=&quot;http://muslimahmediawatch.org/2008/11/a-girls-personality-is-the-last-thing-you-notice/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
A Girl&#039;s Personality is the Last Thing you Notice&lt;/a&gt; More importantly, read the comments.

And I know what you mean about harassment making you sad just as much as it makes you angry. Here&#039;s hoping it&#039;ll change one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Safiyyah: Thanks! Response is nada. No reaction at all.</p>
<p>@ Hicham: If I may add: &#8220;tegry wara bel shebsheb kaman&#8221; <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Salma: And what was the reaction? Nothing</p>
<p>@ Chris: Yes, it often gets physical too. And if the woman ever does anything, people look at <i>her</i> in shock for daring to say anything&#8230;she should suffer in silence.</p>
<p>@ Lozah: Shukran! I&#8217;ve missed writing on here, walahi. Yes, I have seen the Birell ads, and I actually wrote a post about them on MMW a year ago. You can read it here:<a href="http://muslimahmediawatch.org/2008/11/a-girls-personality-is-the-last-thing-you-notice/" rel="nofollow"><br />
A Girl&#8217;s Personality is the Last Thing you Notice</a> More importantly, read the comments.</p>
<p>And I know what you mean about harassment making you sad just as much as it makes you angry. Here&#8217;s hoping it&#8217;ll change one day.</p>
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		<title>By: Shayassa ya Fandem &#124; Hicham Maged&#039;s blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayassa ya Fandem &#124; Hicham Maged&#039;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] came through an interesting article about Sexual Harassments over MuslimaMediaWatch which deals with discussing the nature of what is supposed to be ‘humorous [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Lozah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lozah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post E! (mashaallah)
Have you seen the Birell commercials with the motto &quot;estargel&quot; (be a man) where they show a busty blonde walking into a bar and a group of guys make lewd comments about her, but one guy says something like &quot;she has a really great personality&quot; and they all look at him in disgust? And then the motto appears: &quot;be a man, drink Birell&quot;. Classy.

I really do think we need to look at the underlying causes here. Why is it that there are certain places where we know we&#039;ll never get harassed? Why is it that all harassers seem to belong to a certain socio-economic class? It&#039;s not just as simple as saying &quot;they&#039;re poor and unemployed so this is how they get their kicks&quot;. That&#039;s just one factor, coupled with a lack of sound religious education, coupled with gender segregation and a twisted perception of women that they probably get in their own homes. Anyway, sorry for the incoherent thoughts, I&#039;m just thinking out loud...

@Chris: Yeah it occasionally gets physical with Egyptian women as well, and even sometimes with veiled women, but in different ways. My experience has been that with Egyptian and/or veiled women harassers tend to me more subtle so that if she responds negatively (e.g. starts yelling at him or screaming bloody murder, which some women do, bless them) he can play dumb. 

Honestly, this issue really bothers me, not just because it&#039;s personally annoying to experience harassment, but more because I&#039;m really sad for the state of the Ummah! Sometimes I just want to give those men a lecture on the behaviour of the Prophet PBUH so they can be ashamed of themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post E! (mashaallah)<br />
Have you seen the Birell commercials with the motto &#8220;estargel&#8221; (be a man) where they show a busty blonde walking into a bar and a group of guys make lewd comments about her, but one guy says something like &#8220;she has a really great personality&#8221; and they all look at him in disgust? And then the motto appears: &#8220;be a man, drink Birell&#8221;. Classy.</p>
<p>I really do think we need to look at the underlying causes here. Why is it that there are certain places where we know we&#8217;ll never get harassed? Why is it that all harassers seem to belong to a certain socio-economic class? It&#8217;s not just as simple as saying &#8220;they&#8217;re poor and unemployed so this is how they get their kicks&#8221;. That&#8217;s just one factor, coupled with a lack of sound religious education, coupled with gender segregation and a twisted perception of women that they probably get in their own homes. Anyway, sorry for the incoherent thoughts, I&#8217;m just thinking out loud&#8230;</p>
<p>@Chris: Yeah it occasionally gets physical with Egyptian women as well, and even sometimes with veiled women, but in different ways. My experience has been that with Egyptian and/or veiled women harassers tend to me more subtle so that if she responds negatively (e.g. starts yelling at him or screaming bloody murder, which some women do, bless them) he can play dumb. </p>
<p>Honestly, this issue really bothers me, not just because it&#8217;s personally annoying to experience harassment, but more because I&#8217;m really sad for the state of the Ummah! Sometimes I just want to give those men a lecture on the behaviour of the Prophet PBUH so they can be ashamed of themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  Though, as an white American male living in Egypt I don&#039;t get a lot of harassment, I sympathize.  I see far too much of it with my female friends.  I wanted to ask, does the harassment ever get physical with Egyptian women, as it has on occasion with aganib?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  Though, as an white American male living in Egypt I don&#8217;t get a lot of harassment, I sympathize.  I see far too much of it with my female friends.  I wanted to ask, does the harassment ever get physical with Egyptian women, as it has on occasion with aganib?</p>
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		<title>By: Salma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think the even bigger issue here is that it was aired in Ramadan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the even bigger issue here is that it was aired in Ramadan!</p>
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