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	<title>Comments on: Ask Me Anything: Conversations on Niqab</title>
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	<description>Looking at Muslim women in the media and pop culture</description>
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		<title>By: Rochelle</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2009/11/ask-me-anything-conversations-on-niqab/#comment-7504</link>
		<dc:creator>Rochelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent response, Krista, on the marriage issue.</description>
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		<title>By: Krista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Anne: Yeah, I think that woman was referring to the need to assimilate - but to me, it seemed like she was clearly saying that it was a bad thing that they had to change their names.  She didn&#039;t feel that she should have had to make that kind of sacrifice, and she seemed glad that Rabia Khan wasn&#039;t feeling that same pressure to give up aspects of her culture/religion that were important to her.  I don&#039;t think she was trying to say that that&#039;s a kind of sacrifice that people should have to make.

There wasn&#039;t much discussion (at least, not in the clip that was shown) about the role of her husband in her decision to wear niqab, if he had any role at all, so I didn&#039;t really pick up the same undertones that you did.  At the same time, I think she said at the beginning that she was 24, and she&#039;s been wearing it for 3 years, which means she was 21 (or so) when she put it on - so age might have been a factor too in the timing of when she decided she wanted to, or was ready to, wear it.

@ Yasmine:  Different people would give different advice in the situation of a woman who&#039;s considering becoming Muslim, while at the same time dating a non-Muslim.  It&#039;s not really my place to say what&#039;s right or wrong there, but I think that kind of situation is definitely a complex and challenging one, and reflects one of the areas where people coming into Islam may struggle.  As for the question about what Muslim women wear, a lot of Muslim women don&#039;t cover their head at all, a lot of Muslim women cover their head in various ways, and the women who also cover their face are a pretty small minority, globally speaking (although there are specific areas of the world where most women cover their face.)

@ softestbullet:  Good question.  I have no idea!

@ Zahra:  Very interesting thoughts on how this interview contrasts with the other &quot;Ask Me Anything&quot; segments with the nurse and the soldier - thanks for sharing those!

@ Everyone:
This is that last that I&#039;ll say about the issue of Muslim women marrying non-Muslims.  As I mentioned above, my problem was NOT with Khan&#039;s belief that Muslim women *should* only marry Muslim men, which, as has been pointed out by nearly everybody, is the mainstream/traditional perspective on the issue.  My problem was with the way that she just dismissed the question by saying that ALL Muslim women only marry Muslim men, which, as a *descriptive* statement, is problematic and exclusive because it ignores the realities of a lot of Muslim women (which exist, even if you think that their relationships are wrong and/or unIslamic.)  

Having said that, a look back at my original post shows it to be exclusive as well, implying that the only alternative to Muslim women marrying Muslim men is &quot;Muslim women who marry non-Muslim men,&quot; which also ignores Muslim women who don&#039;t marry, or who don&#039;t marry men.  Again, this is NOT the place to talk about the right or wrong of any of this, but it also shouldn&#039;t be the place to push anyone outside of the category of &quot;Muslim women,&quot; and I apologise for my original wording.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Anne: Yeah, I think that woman was referring to the need to assimilate &#8211; but to me, it seemed like she was clearly saying that it was a bad thing that they had to change their names.  She didn&#8217;t feel that she should have had to make that kind of sacrifice, and she seemed glad that Rabia Khan wasn&#8217;t feeling that same pressure to give up aspects of her culture/religion that were important to her.  I don&#8217;t think she was trying to say that that&#8217;s a kind of sacrifice that people should have to make.</p>
<p>There wasn&#8217;t much discussion (at least, not in the clip that was shown) about the role of her husband in her decision to wear niqab, if he had any role at all, so I didn&#8217;t really pick up the same undertones that you did.  At the same time, I think she said at the beginning that she was 24, and she&#8217;s been wearing it for 3 years, which means she was 21 (or so) when she put it on &#8211; so age might have been a factor too in the timing of when she decided she wanted to, or was ready to, wear it.</p>
<p>@ Yasmine:  Different people would give different advice in the situation of a woman who&#8217;s considering becoming Muslim, while at the same time dating a non-Muslim.  It&#8217;s not really my place to say what&#8217;s right or wrong there, but I think that kind of situation is definitely a complex and challenging one, and reflects one of the areas where people coming into Islam may struggle.  As for the question about what Muslim women wear, a lot of Muslim women don&#8217;t cover their head at all, a lot of Muslim women cover their head in various ways, and the women who also cover their face are a pretty small minority, globally speaking (although there are specific areas of the world where most women cover their face.)</p>
<p>@ softestbullet:  Good question.  I have no idea!</p>
<p>@ Zahra:  Very interesting thoughts on how this interview contrasts with the other &#8220;Ask Me Anything&#8221; segments with the nurse and the soldier &#8211; thanks for sharing those!</p>
<p>@ Everyone:<br />
This is that last that I&#8217;ll say about the issue of Muslim women marrying non-Muslims.  As I mentioned above, my problem was NOT with Khan&#8217;s belief that Muslim women *should* only marry Muslim men, which, as has been pointed out by nearly everybody, is the mainstream/traditional perspective on the issue.  My problem was with the way that she just dismissed the question by saying that ALL Muslim women only marry Muslim men, which, as a *descriptive* statement, is problematic and exclusive because it ignores the realities of a lot of Muslim women (which exist, even if you think that their relationships are wrong and/or unIslamic.)  </p>
<p>Having said that, a look back at my original post shows it to be exclusive as well, implying that the only alternative to Muslim women marrying Muslim men is &#8220;Muslim women who marry non-Muslim men,&#8221; which also ignores Muslim women who don&#8217;t marry, or who don&#8217;t marry men.  Again, this is NOT the place to talk about the right or wrong of any of this, but it also shouldn&#8217;t be the place to push anyone outside of the category of &#8220;Muslim women,&#8221; and I apologise for my original wording.</p>
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		<title>By: Sobia</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2009/11/ask-me-anything-conversations-on-niqab/#comment-7502</link>
		<dc:creator>Sobia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prophet Muhammad wasn&#039;t mainstream either. Being mainstream does not auromaticlly mean right.</description>
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		<title>By: Zahra (with a Z)</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2009/11/ask-me-anything-conversations-on-niqab/#comment-7501</link>
		<dc:creator>Zahra (with a Z)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece! Krista, I especially like the way you parse Mark Kelley&#039;s &quot;you&quot;--the whole question of who is Canadian, and who gets to judge who is Canadian, is central to the whole question of niqab in public discourse (and why it&#039;s a matter of public discourse, anyway).

I&#039;m a bit amazed that the conversation keeps coming back to the theological question of who Muslim women are supposed to marry, when Krista specifically said this is &quot;not a debate we&#039;ll have here.&quot; I appreciate Sobia&#039;s explanation, which clearly delineates a mainstream and a minority position--but it seems others (like Anon) still feel a need to reiterate this. 

I think the recurrence of this conversation illustrates one of Krista&#039;s points about the &quot;Ask Me Anything&quot; format--that it&#039;s hard to rein in a public conversation once opened, and that putting the niqab up for debate in a public setting might lead to spillover, where other niqabis are expected to deal with intrusive questions. I can&#039;t help but note that the nurse and soldier (unlike Khan) have experiences that aren&#039;t immediately visible when they go to the mall just to shop, and are less tied to identity. They&#039;re also experiences that are presumed to be negative, so I&#039;m not sure if that colors the context of this niqab discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece! Krista, I especially like the way you parse Mark Kelley&#8217;s &#8220;you&#8221;&#8211;the whole question of who is Canadian, and who gets to judge who is Canadian, is central to the whole question of niqab in public discourse (and why it&#8217;s a matter of public discourse, anyway).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit amazed that the conversation keeps coming back to the theological question of who Muslim women are supposed to marry, when Krista specifically said this is &#8220;not a debate we&#8217;ll have here.&#8221; I appreciate Sobia&#8217;s explanation, which clearly delineates a mainstream and a minority position&#8211;but it seems others (like Anon) still feel a need to reiterate this. </p>
<p>I think the recurrence of this conversation illustrates one of Krista&#8217;s points about the &#8220;Ask Me Anything&#8221; format&#8211;that it&#8217;s hard to rein in a public conversation once opened, and that putting the niqab up for debate in a public setting might lead to spillover, where other niqabis are expected to deal with intrusive questions. I can&#8217;t help but note that the nurse and soldier (unlike Khan) have experiences that aren&#8217;t immediately visible when they go to the mall just to shop, and are less tied to identity. They&#8217;re also experiences that are presumed to be negative, so I&#8217;m not sure if that colors the context of this niqab discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However, there are Muslims, including scholars, who interpret it a little differently.&quot;

those &#039;scholars&#039; are very few and are not considered mainstream</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, there are Muslims, including scholars, who interpret it a little differently.&#8221;</p>
<p>those &#8216;scholars&#8217; are very few and are not considered mainstream</p>
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		<title>By: Sula Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sula Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found your blog and I LOVE it!!!  As a Muslim married to a non-Muslim, I have to say I was at peace with that decision at the time, but it has not been a peaceful relationship...very interesting debate - thank you!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found your blog and I LOVE it!!!  As a Muslim married to a non-Muslim, I have to say I was at peace with that decision at the time, but it has not been a peaceful relationship&#8230;very interesting debate &#8211; thank you!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sobia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sobia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Yasmine:

Although Krista didn&#039;t want this discussed here I will still briefly answer your question (sorry Krista...I&#039;ll try to keep it as non-controversial and short as possible).

Traditionally the view has been that Muslim women cannot marry outside the religion. And I would say most Muslims interpret the Qur&#039;an in this manner. There is a verse in the Qur&#039;an which many state tells Muslim MEN that they can marry Christian or Jewish women. However, there are Muslims, including scholars, who interpret it a little differently. They say that verse is not addressed to Muslim men only but also Muslim women. In other words making it ok for Muslim women to marry Christians or Jews as well. 

So it has become open to interpretation and I think it&#039;s a choice which interpretation people feel more comfortable with.

Things in Islam, as in life itself, are rarely as black and white as they appear. There is a whole lot of gray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Yasmine:</p>
<p>Although Krista didn&#8217;t want this discussed here I will still briefly answer your question (sorry Krista&#8230;I&#8217;ll try to keep it as non-controversial and short as possible).</p>
<p>Traditionally the view has been that Muslim women cannot marry outside the religion. And I would say most Muslims interpret the Qur&#8217;an in this manner. There is a verse in the Qur&#8217;an which many state tells Muslim MEN that they can marry Christian or Jewish women. However, there are Muslims, including scholars, who interpret it a little differently. They say that verse is not addressed to Muslim men only but also Muslim women. In other words making it ok for Muslim women to marry Christians or Jews as well. </p>
<p>So it has become open to interpretation and I think it&#8217;s a choice which interpretation people feel more comfortable with.</p>
<p>Things in Islam, as in life itself, are rarely as black and white as they appear. There is a whole lot of gray.</p>
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		<title>By: softestbullet</title>
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		<dc:creator>softestbullet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Nothing that Khan said at any point in the clip suggested in any way that she would be “abusing” her right to dress and practice her religion as she pleases, and I find it hard to believe that any of what was cut out of the interview would change this fact.&lt;/em&gt;

And what would abusing the right to dress as you please even entail??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Nothing that Khan said at any point in the clip suggested in any way that she would be “abusing” her right to dress and practice her religion as she pleases, and I find it hard to believe that any of what was cut out of the interview would change this fact.</em></p>
<p>And what would abusing the right to dress as you please even entail??</p>
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		<title>By: Yasmine Jameson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yasmine Jameson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a question based on your article:  I had watched a television show in which the lady who was a Muslim was dating outside of her religion. And her family was not aware that she was dating.  Is it such a problem if you do that?  What if you are a convert and not yet married?  Is that something that she should do?  What if she is already dating someone who is not Muslim and not converted- is that a consideration for her prior to converting? 

Also what is more common to see Muslim women wear- the scarf that covers the head and the face (niquab) or just the face?  I don&#039;t remember the correct terms.  

If you have time please forward a response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a question based on your article:  I had watched a television show in which the lady who was a Muslim was dating outside of her religion. And her family was not aware that she was dating.  Is it such a problem if you do that?  What if you are a convert and not yet married?  Is that something that she should do?  What if she is already dating someone who is not Muslim and not converted- is that a consideration for her prior to converting? </p>
<p>Also what is more common to see Muslim women wear- the scarf that covers the head and the face (niquab) or just the face?  I don&#8217;t remember the correct terms.  </p>
<p>If you have time please forward a response.</p>
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		<title>By: NiqabiSister</title>
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		<dc:creator>NiqabiSister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asalamu Alaikum

You were bothered that she said that Muslim women only marry Muslim men?  Well perhaps its not always the case, but if the Muslim woman wants to follow her religion correctly it is.  I&#039;m not talking about reverts who were married already.

Only Allah can know who is truly Muslim and who is  not, but this kind of blatant disregard for the commands of Allah can&#039;t be a very good sign.

&lt;strong&gt;[This comment has been edited to fit within comment moderation guidelines.]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asalamu Alaikum</p>
<p>You were bothered that she said that Muslim women only marry Muslim men?  Well perhaps its not always the case, but if the Muslim woman wants to follow her religion correctly it is.  I&#8217;m not talking about reverts who were married already.</p>
<p>Only Allah can know who is truly Muslim and who is  not, but this kind of blatant disregard for the commands of Allah can&#8217;t be a very good sign.</p>
<p><strong>[This comment has been edited to fit within comment moderation guidelines.]</strong></p>
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