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	<title>Comments on: Saudi Female Journalist Becomes LBC&#8217;s Scapegoat</title>
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		<title>By: Laila</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2009/11/saudi-female-journalist-becomes-lbcs-scapegoat/#comment-7420</link>
		<dc:creator>Laila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sam

Thanks for pointing that out. I was thinking the same thing, it&#039;s unacceptable to make general statements like &quot;Christians are raised like this or Muslims are raised like that or Jews speak like that (etc), because these populations in question are very diverse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sam</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing that out. I was thinking the same thing, it&#8217;s unacceptable to make general statements like &#8220;Christians are raised like this or Muslims are raised like that or Jews speak like that (etc), because these populations in question are very diverse.</p>
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		<title>By: RCHOUDH</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2009/11/saudi-female-journalist-becomes-lbcs-scapegoat/#comment-7419</link>
		<dc:creator>RCHOUDH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I too wasn&#039;t being very CLEAR. Instead of saying generally, &quot;Muslims are raised...&quot; I should have explained that &quot;based on the norms of (Saudi) society, it is not common to see people discussing private matters openly and casually&quot;. In that case, it doesn&#039;t matter how an individual is raised, most of the times they abide by whatever norms govern a particular society. Is that clear enough for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I too wasn&#8217;t being very CLEAR. Instead of saying generally, &#8220;Muslims are raised&#8230;&#8221; I should have explained that &#8220;based on the norms of (Saudi) society, it is not common to see people discussing private matters openly and casually&#8221;. In that case, it doesn&#8217;t matter how an individual is raised, most of the times they abide by whatever norms govern a particular society. Is that clear enough for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I wasn&#039;t very CLEAR. I&#039;m not referring to sexuality or LBC or the journalist but to the way you are generalizing and making blanket statements of a large group of people.  Not just Saudi Arabians but Muslims which are over a billion people?

You shouldn&#039;t make such statements as &quot;Muslims are raised like this or Muslim speak like that or discuss this etc.&quot; Just like it isn&#039;t wise to generalize about Muslim women or any other group of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I wasn&#8217;t very CLEAR. I&#8217;m not referring to sexuality or LBC or the journalist but to the way you are generalizing and making blanket statements of a large group of people.  Not just Saudi Arabians but Muslims which are over a billion people?</p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t make such statements as &#8220;Muslims are raised like this or Muslim speak like that or discuss this etc.&#8221; Just like it isn&#8217;t wise to generalize about Muslim women or any other group of people.</p>
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		<title>By: sui sen</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2009/11/saudi-female-journalist-becomes-lbcs-scapegoat/#comment-7417</link>
		<dc:creator>sui sen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Sam...

In the West people talk about sexual promiscuisity to find solutions on how to stop it or better to find cure for those who suffer sexual addictions. 

But the show shown in LBC was to glorify the sexual promiscusity in a society where sexuality is not only considered as sacred but also very sensitive to talk about.

Sex education is one thing but to provide a stage to promote sexual misadvetures and immorality is another.

It is not hypocrisy. Yes such thing happen. But instead of looking for soltions to address the problem, the network chose to glorify it.

Disgusting, very disgusting indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Sam&#8230;</p>
<p>In the West people talk about sexual promiscuisity to find solutions on how to stop it or better to find cure for those who suffer sexual addictions. </p>
<p>But the show shown in LBC was to glorify the sexual promiscusity in a society where sexuality is not only considered as sacred but also very sensitive to talk about.</p>
<p>Sex education is one thing but to provide a stage to promote sexual misadvetures and immorality is another.</p>
<p>It is not hypocrisy. Yes such thing happen. But instead of looking for soltions to address the problem, the network chose to glorify it.</p>
<p>Disgusting, very disgusting indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: RCHOUDH</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2009/11/saudi-female-journalist-becomes-lbcs-scapegoat/#comment-7416</link>
		<dc:creator>RCHOUDH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sam
   
     Yes I was being serious. Most of the time individuals don&#039;t publicly divulge private actions they know to be haraam, because in Islam it&#039;s taught that if you commit a sin and repent afterwards, you should hide it from people because it&#039;s nobody&#039;s business but your own (and likewise Allah will shield your sins from being exposed on the Day of Judgment). Also whoever knows of whatever sin you once committed must also protect your right to privacy, otherwise they are committing the sin of slander and backbiting if they divulge your past actions to others. 
If you want help in stopping yourself from continuing to commit a sin, you can seek help for it so long as it&#039;s done privately and so long as you know the help is reliable (eg. seeking help for kicking drug or alcohol addiction from a substance abuse clinic). 

If LBC wants to put on a show in order to  help people who seek help in solving a personal matter or want to bring a social problem to light, then they should ensure  that the guest receives the utmost privacy (the only exception being if the guest chooses to forgo privacy). Like a said it&#039;s nobody&#039;s business who is doing what, especially if a person wants to change their behavior, because that is between that person and Allah.

@Dude

You&#039;re right other news networks should be held accountable for their irresponsibility as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sam</p>
<p>     Yes I was being serious. Most of the time individuals don&#8217;t publicly divulge private actions they know to be haraam, because in Islam it&#8217;s taught that if you commit a sin and repent afterwards, you should hide it from people because it&#8217;s nobody&#8217;s business but your own (and likewise Allah will shield your sins from being exposed on the Day of Judgment). Also whoever knows of whatever sin you once committed must also protect your right to privacy, otherwise they are committing the sin of slander and backbiting if they divulge your past actions to others.<br />
If you want help in stopping yourself from continuing to commit a sin, you can seek help for it so long as it&#8217;s done privately and so long as you know the help is reliable (eg. seeking help for kicking drug or alcohol addiction from a substance abuse clinic). </p>
<p>If LBC wants to put on a show in order to  help people who seek help in solving a personal matter or want to bring a social problem to light, then they should ensure  that the guest receives the utmost privacy (the only exception being if the guest chooses to forgo privacy). Like a said it&#8217;s nobody&#8217;s business who is doing what, especially if a person wants to change their behavior, because that is between that person and Allah.</p>
<p>@Dude</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right other news networks should be held accountable for their irresponsibility as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2009/11/saudi-female-journalist-becomes-lbcs-scapegoat/#comment-7415</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Since they were looking to shed light on some very personal sensitive topics, they should have taken into account the fact that Muslims generally do not discuss about these topics in a general forum and in a “light hearted” manner. It goes back to how Muslims are raised to view these behaviors...&quot;  

Wow...r u serious with this comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Since they were looking to shed light on some very personal sensitive topics, they should have taken into account the fact that Muslims generally do not discuss about these topics in a general forum and in a “light hearted” manner. It goes back to how Muslims are raised to view these behaviors&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>Wow&#8230;r u serious with this comment?</p>
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		<title>By: Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2009/11/saudi-female-journalist-becomes-lbcs-scapegoat/#comment-7414</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that LBC acted irresponsibly.

I&#039;d also suggest, however, that we not hold them in higher contempt than we do other TV stations. How much worse were their actions compared to many stations here in the US or in the UK?

I routinely see programs where they go to some country and are interviewing people who could get in trouble with their governments if their identity was revealed. Most of them don&#039;t hide the identity (they don&#039;t blur the face, and at times even give the names). That&#039;s highly irresponsible. Even when they do blur the face, almost half of the times it&#039;s such a poor job that anyone who knows the individual, and is watching the show, will know it&#039;s him/her. And they often provide enough peripheral data to identify the person anyway even if they do properly blur the face. And even rarer is the masking of the voice.

And there are other &quot;faults&quot; with such stations. The LBC fiasco is creating a bigger fuss simply because these events are rare in Saudi Arabia - not because they&#039;re any worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that LBC acted irresponsibly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also suggest, however, that we not hold them in higher contempt than we do other TV stations. How much worse were their actions compared to many stations here in the US or in the UK?</p>
<p>I routinely see programs where they go to some country and are interviewing people who could get in trouble with their governments if their identity was revealed. Most of them don&#8217;t hide the identity (they don&#8217;t blur the face, and at times even give the names). That&#8217;s highly irresponsible. Even when they do blur the face, almost half of the times it&#8217;s such a poor job that anyone who knows the individual, and is watching the show, will know it&#8217;s him/her. And they often provide enough peripheral data to identify the person anyway even if they do properly blur the face. And even rarer is the masking of the voice.</p>
<p>And there are other &#8220;faults&#8221; with such stations. The LBC fiasco is creating a bigger fuss simply because these events are rare in Saudi Arabia &#8211; not because they&#8217;re any worse.</p>
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		<title>By: RCHOUDH</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2009/11/saudi-female-journalist-becomes-lbcs-scapegoat/#comment-7413</link>
		<dc:creator>RCHOUDH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree LBC acted very irresponsibly in not protecting both its journalist and guest from the Saudi government&#039;s ire. Since they were looking to shed light on some very personal sensitive topics, they should have taken into account the fact that Muslims generally do not discuss about these topics in a general forum and in a &quot;light hearted&quot; manner. It goes back to how Muslims are raised to view these behaviors (strange sexual practices, black magic) as actions one should not publicly air, especially in a light hearted manner, if one committed them. Instead one should stop practicing them (either on one&#039;s own or by seeking help privately), make tauba, and move on with one&#039;s life. 

If LBC was serious about bringing these practices to public attention, as well as other issues like spinsterhood and marriages of convenience, then it should have guaranteed the privacy to the utmost degree its guests, hosts, and other members of its journalistic organization. That way these issues could be discussed thoroughly in a comfortable setting.

Another aspect of LBC&#039;s actions that I question is for what purpose  
they want to bring these issues to light about Saudi society. If it&#039;s simply to poke fun at these subjects and at Saudi society, I believe this is very immature behavior on LBC&#039;s part. If however they genuinely want to bring these problems to light in order to find ways to bring forth solutions, or at least to help the ones performing these actions as well as their friends and family who are affected, then I believe bringing these issues to light serves an important purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree LBC acted very irresponsibly in not protecting both its journalist and guest from the Saudi government&#8217;s ire. Since they were looking to shed light on some very personal sensitive topics, they should have taken into account the fact that Muslims generally do not discuss about these topics in a general forum and in a &#8220;light hearted&#8221; manner. It goes back to how Muslims are raised to view these behaviors (strange sexual practices, black magic) as actions one should not publicly air, especially in a light hearted manner, if one committed them. Instead one should stop practicing them (either on one&#8217;s own or by seeking help privately), make tauba, and move on with one&#8217;s life. </p>
<p>If LBC was serious about bringing these practices to public attention, as well as other issues like spinsterhood and marriages of convenience, then it should have guaranteed the privacy to the utmost degree its guests, hosts, and other members of its journalistic organization. That way these issues could be discussed thoroughly in a comfortable setting.</p>
<p>Another aspect of LBC&#8217;s actions that I question is for what purpose<br />
they want to bring these issues to light about Saudi society. If it&#8217;s simply to poke fun at these subjects and at Saudi society, I believe this is very immature behavior on LBC&#8217;s part. If however they genuinely want to bring these problems to light in order to find ways to bring forth solutions, or at least to help the ones performing these actions as well as their friends and family who are affected, then I believe bringing these issues to light serves an important purpose.</p>
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