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	<title>Comments on: Divorce, Egyptian Style: Oprah&#8217;s Episode on Marriage Around the Globe</title>
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		<title>By: Eman Hashim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eman Hashim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Shameema you need to view part 2 because I have a feeling that You only watched part 1

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Shameema you need to view part 2 because I have a feeling that You only watched part 1</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Shameema</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shameema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t get to watch the segment in it&#039;s entirety but from the short clip and the post, it seemed completely off topic.

Being clear and unbiased reporting, negative or not si what we should all strive for.

This, however for me didn&#039;t quite manage that.

Personally, I didn&#039;t get the choice of a Danish reporter and why there was the need to compare Egypt at every point to Denmark.

The episode was meant to talk about marriage but it seemed like it became fixated on the hijab. Why the debate about wearing the hijab or not wearing it even made it to air is beyond me. The focus was on Marriage in Egypt and not women in Egypt. For me it should never have come to that and so in that regard I have to agree with Dr Kotb, that there seemed to have been an agenda.

There are alot os issues in regard to womens rights and equity in Egypt that we can spend days discussing but I don&#039;t wish to do so here simply because I think it&#039;s not what the focus of this should have been.

There is alot of beauty,joy and happiness in weddings and marriage in egypt and I think that should have been highlighted in this episode.

I think that the questions were posed encouraged a very competitive/playing on against the other kind of discourse. Im going to take a guess and say that in another situation, having these women sit and talk about this over a cup of cofee they might have held the same opinions but it would have come across quite differently</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get to watch the segment in it&#8217;s entirety but from the short clip and the post, it seemed completely off topic.</p>
<p>Being clear and unbiased reporting, negative or not si what we should all strive for.</p>
<p>This, however for me didn&#8217;t quite manage that.</p>
<p>Personally, I didn&#8217;t get the choice of a Danish reporter and why there was the need to compare Egypt at every point to Denmark.</p>
<p>The episode was meant to talk about marriage but it seemed like it became fixated on the hijab. Why the debate about wearing the hijab or not wearing it even made it to air is beyond me. The focus was on Marriage in Egypt and not women in Egypt. For me it should never have come to that and so in that regard I have to agree with Dr Kotb, that there seemed to have been an agenda.</p>
<p>There are alot os issues in regard to womens rights and equity in Egypt that we can spend days discussing but I don&#8217;t wish to do so here simply because I think it&#8217;s not what the focus of this should have been.</p>
<p>There is alot of beauty,joy and happiness in weddings and marriage in egypt and I think that should have been highlighted in this episode.</p>
<p>I think that the questions were posed encouraged a very competitive/playing on against the other kind of discourse. Im going to take a guess and say that in another situation, having these women sit and talk about this over a cup of cofee they might have held the same opinions but it would have come across quite differently</p>
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		<title>By: candice</title>
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		<dc:creator>candice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this episode when it aired a bit back and I really thought it was about divorce, not marriage. It makes it a bit disappointing to find out that it was supposed to talk about marriage in Egypt. For a divoorce segment, I thought it was good (minus focos put on hijab). It showed how difficult it is for a woman to obtain divorce in Egypt, which is really nothing more than the truth! I enjoyed the interviewees and thought they portrayed the different views of Egyptians pretty well. 

Now that I learn it was supposed to be about marriage, it really feels like the emphasis was put so much on the negative (a *failed* marriage - divorce). I still don&#039;t agree with Kotb and her outrage. Even if it wasn&#039;t so much about the marriage itself in the end, what it *did* talk about was well-presented given the time constraint for the segment. 

I have to mention that the Danish woman really didn&#039;t get it. She was pretty darn useless and simply didn&#039;t understand Egyptians and it showed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this episode when it aired a bit back and I really thought it was about divorce, not marriage. It makes it a bit disappointing to find out that it was supposed to talk about marriage in Egypt. For a divoorce segment, I thought it was good (minus focos put on hijab). It showed how difficult it is for a woman to obtain divorce in Egypt, which is really nothing more than the truth! I enjoyed the interviewees and thought they portrayed the different views of Egyptians pretty well. </p>
<p>Now that I learn it was supposed to be about marriage, it really feels like the emphasis was put so much on the negative (a *failed* marriage &#8211; divorce). I still don&#8217;t agree with Kotb and her outrage. Even if it wasn&#8217;t so much about the marriage itself in the end, what it *did* talk about was well-presented given the time constraint for the segment. </p>
<p>I have to mention that the Danish woman really didn&#8217;t get it. She was pretty darn useless and simply didn&#8217;t understand Egyptians and it showed.</p>
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		<title>By: Aliyah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aliyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the positive aspects of divorce in Egypt, considering the women barely have any rights regarding divorce- the legal system does not protect women but abuses them in process. Do u even know what legal hurdles lie ahead for women who want a divorce, or the discriminatory child custody they face if the proceed with a divorce.   


It sounded like one could cut the tension with a knive when it came to the annoying H topic (hijab) between those who wore it and those that didn&#039;t. Can someone tell me why there was that tension. Why was there the need attack each others believes on it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the positive aspects of divorce in Egypt, considering the women barely have any rights regarding divorce- the legal system does not protect women but abuses them in process. Do u even know what legal hurdles lie ahead for women who want a divorce, or the discriminatory child custody they face if the proceed with a divorce.   </p>
<p>It sounded like one could cut the tension with a knive when it came to the annoying H topic (hijab) between those who wore it and those that didn&#8217;t. Can someone tell me why there was that tension. Why was there the need attack each others believes on it?</p>
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		<title>By: Lumos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lumos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100% with James.
What on earth,for instance,does the hijab have to do with marriage in Egypt?
And should only the negative things be highlighted? 
Why not talk about the marriage process in Egypt? The average age women marry at?What a wedding in Egypt looks like?
Why does anything pertaining to the Middle East always have to be negative?

I&#039;m all for portraying a &quot;clearer image&quot;,but not one that is biased. There are tons of problems in Egypt(I should know since I live here),but what country is without them?
A &quot;clearer&quot; image,in my opinion,is one that shows a slightly better picture for a change.One that shows the positive aspects along with the negative,not only the negative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100% with James.<br />
What on earth,for instance,does the hijab have to do with marriage in Egypt?<br />
And should only the negative things be highlighted?<br />
Why not talk about the marriage process in Egypt? The average age women marry at?What a wedding in Egypt looks like?<br />
Why does anything pertaining to the Middle East always have to be negative?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for portraying a &#8220;clearer image&#8221;,but not one that is biased. There are tons of problems in Egypt(I should know since I live here),but what country is without them?<br />
A &#8220;clearer&#8221; image,in my opinion,is one that shows a slightly better picture for a change.One that shows the positive aspects along with the negative,not only the negative.</p>
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		<title>By: Willow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What people living in democracies don&#039;t seem to understand is that in an autocracy, *everyone* is oppressed...man, woman, chicken and child. The lack of balance in reporting makes it seem as though Egyptian men live in a lothario&#039;s paradise while women labor as virtual slaves. But men and women both face a collapsing economy, police brutality, the threat of arrest for any kind of political activity, no free speech, no freedom of association, obscene crackdowns on labor unions and other workers&#039; right associations, prisons so bad not even the Red Cross is allowed inside, and on and on...

In light of that, it&#039;s a miracle life in Egypt is as rich and energetic as it is. To single out one aspect or another and try to paint a picture of the whole country with it is unfair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What people living in democracies don&#8217;t seem to understand is that in an autocracy, *everyone* is oppressed&#8230;man, woman, chicken and child. The lack of balance in reporting makes it seem as though Egyptian men live in a lothario&#8217;s paradise while women labor as virtual slaves. But men and women both face a collapsing economy, police brutality, the threat of arrest for any kind of political activity, no free speech, no freedom of association, obscene crackdowns on labor unions and other workers&#8217; right associations, prisons so bad not even the Red Cross is allowed inside, and on and on&#8230;</p>
<p>In light of that, it&#8217;s a miracle life in Egypt is as rich and energetic as it is. To single out one aspect or another and try to paint a picture of the whole country with it is unfair.</p>
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		<title>By: Rochelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rochelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I was surprised during the interview that we are talking not only about marriage, as I was told, but about sex, religion, and the veil&quot;

How do you talk about marriage in a Muslim country (or any country for that matter) without talking about sex, religion, and the the veil (or gender relations)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I was surprised during the interview that we are talking not only about marriage, as I was told, but about sex, religion, and the veil&#8221;</p>
<p>How do you talk about marriage in a Muslim country (or any country for that matter) without talking about sex, religion, and the the veil (or gender relations)?</p>
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		<title>By: Organica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Organica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For example, when one of the women decided to JUDGE Heba for not being religious (because she chooses not to wear hijab), I felt the dumbness setting in. I don&#039;t understand how any one has the right to judge someone&#039;s religiousness.

Now, obviously, the Danish host had an agenda because she compared everything to Denmark. She was pretentious in her speech instead of accepting what things in Egypt are like. I was extremely disappointed in her judgments of women in tight clothes, make up and scarves. What&#039;s her business? 

Truth be told. Egypt oppresses women, especially when it comes to the legal system. Women have no rights without a man. A few things were highlighted in the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For example, when one of the women decided to JUDGE Heba for not being religious (because she chooses not to wear hijab), I felt the dumbness setting in. I don&#8217;t understand how any one has the right to judge someone&#8217;s religiousness.</p>
<p>Now, obviously, the Danish host had an agenda because she compared everything to Denmark. She was pretentious in her speech instead of accepting what things in Egypt are like. I was extremely disappointed in her judgments of women in tight clothes, make up and scarves. What&#8217;s her business? </p>
<p>Truth be told. Egypt oppresses women, especially when it comes to the legal system. Women have no rights without a man. A few things were highlighted in the show.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Heba is right and has her right to be upset over the Opera editing. Ultimately even if real issues are highlighted it is NOT balanced one only the negatives are shown. It was not ever mentioned the many other ways people deal with divorce and that certain situations are not typical or Islamic. So she would be upset that the full picture or perspective is not displayed.

You make it sound like as if the majority of Egyptian women are in the same boat and have problems, when it is far more complex and isn&#039;t the case.

So your post and glee at the fact that some issues have been highlighted, doesn&#039;t mean that its a fair portrayal. Egypt is not a utopia, but it is far too easy to make a sweeping statement about it.

And why in the world does any of it come down to Hijab at all? Just shows how pathetic and fixated western media is still with the Hijab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Heba is right and has her right to be upset over the Opera editing. Ultimately even if real issues are highlighted it is NOT balanced one only the negatives are shown. It was not ever mentioned the many other ways people deal with divorce and that certain situations are not typical or Islamic. So she would be upset that the full picture or perspective is not displayed.</p>
<p>You make it sound like as if the majority of Egyptian women are in the same boat and have problems, when it is far more complex and isn&#8217;t the case.</p>
<p>So your post and glee at the fact that some issues have been highlighted, doesn&#8217;t mean that its a fair portrayal. Egypt is not a utopia, but it is far too easy to make a sweeping statement about it.</p>
<p>And why in the world does any of it come down to Hijab at all? Just shows how pathetic and fixated western media is still with the Hijab.</p>
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