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About David Hayward

David Hayward runs the blog nakedpastor as a graffiti artist on the walls of religion where he critiques religion… specifically Christianity and the church. He also runs the online community The Lasting Supper where people can help themselves discover, explore and live in spiritual freedom.

  • Eddy Hooper

    Man the only thing missing with this one is Nancy Grace or Mario Lopez bringing cameras in tow on this one.

  • http://samscoville.blogspot.com/ sam scoville

    The ongoing cartoon critique is against “bad religion,” “bad churches.” “bad pastors,” “bad xtians” and their victims: the abused. Surely makes religion and church and pastors and xtians look bad. Very bad.

  • David Iach

    I have seen this too many times in real life…

  • http://theprodigalprophet.com Dylan Morrison Author

    Knowledge is power in the control game.

    A person without voluntary vulnerability hasn’t got a genuine ‘pastoral’ gift.

    Avoid at all costs.

  • http://samscoville.blogspot.com/ sam scoville

    Evidently, from the stand point of these cartoon critiques: a good myn is hard to find: pastor, parishioner,church-goer, church-member. Bad news. Avoid all at all costs. (Am I mis-reading?)

  • KM

    Yes, Sam, you are. Perhaps you’re also seeing commentaries on things that don’t tally with your experience.

  • http://thegodlessmonster.com/ The Godless Monster

    @Dylan Morrison Author,
    “A person without voluntary vulnerability hasn’t got a genuine ‘pastoral’ gift.”
    Well said.

  • LouiseM

    I have seen this too many times in real life…

    I’ve had it happen to me. I usually don’t find David’s cartoons funny; they touch my heart with affirmation and healing. They help me know “The One Who Sees Me” truly does.

  • http://samscoville.blogspot.com/ sam scoville

    KM – I am seeing commentary that doesn’t tally with my experience. “Bad” church, pastor, parishioner, dogma is not my experience. That someone feels affirmed when church, pastor, parishioner, dogma is “exposed” as negative is not my experience. I don’t doubt it–if the experience is “bad” church, pastor, parishioner, dogma. Then anyone is likely to feel free at last and affirmed when all that badness is exposed. “Bad” church, Bad Pastors. Bad parishioners. Bad dogma. What a relief to get out from under and walk away. Am I misreading?

  • http://www.lelightclub.com Louise la francofun!

    Our problem as believers is our lack of self-critique, yet our own scripture tells us judge not others lest ye be judged and that we shall be judged with the same measure as we have judged. I tell you by those standards, we deserve much harsher criticism than NakedPastor’s creative wit. It’s time for the church to clean its act.

  • http://samscoville.blogspot.com/ sam scoville

    A judgment: it’s time for the church to clean its act. Another judgment: esp the “fundamentalist/evangelical” church which is evidently causing so much pain and abuse by it’s bad pastors and bad parishiners and bad dogma. Am I reading this right?

  • http://thoughts-brigitte.blogspot.com Brigitte

    “Fundamentalist/evangelical” church, specifically, as Sam asks. I would say so.

    Other traditions which believe in actual confession and absolution, not just “counselling”, where the word of the minister spoken to you about forgiveness of sins, is to be believed as a word straight from God, that your sin is gone, gone, gone, forever and forever gone, gone, gone, will not tolerate a minister who then “keeps” this sin by repeating it. It is the exact opposite of what the congregation has called him to do and proclaim.

  • KM

    Sam — thanks for the response.

    Given your experiences, it sounds like a discussion around situations like the one in the picture doesn’t resonate with you. What would you prefer?

  • http://www.lelightclub.com Louise la francofun!

    Judging ourselves is OK.

  • Jeff Sjolander

    Another one hit out of the park David, thank you. :)

    I’m not saying that this type of minister is sick with pride…well, ok…I’LL SAY IT.

  • Ed

    I wonder if this is more prevalent in independent churches. The denomination that I pastored for has strict confidentiality requirements and there was no breach in the 5 years I was there. In my denomination, pastors who were not trained specifically and licensed to counsel could only do pastoral care and suggest further counseling when the issues disclosed were serious enough, but could only suggest, not require or demand. And no pastor could offer pastoral care for a person of the opposite sex without a second person of the counselee’s sex present. And no closed doors when counseling, etc. etc. I was thinking of all the pastors I was in contact with in my region and I can’t imagine any one of them doing this to a congregant. We held regional meetings and nothing was ever discussed among us of issues with members, and nothing about anyone by name. It just wasn’t part of the culture of the denomination. Thank goodness!

  • fishon

    Louise la francofun!
    August 23, 2011 | 1:26 pm
    It’s time for the church to clean its act.
    —-NO IS IS NOT. It is time for “some” local churches to clean its act up.

  • fishon

    Louise la francofun!
    August 23, 2011 | 3:11 pm

    Judging ourselves is OK.
    ——-We ALL judge other people. I have not met one person in my life that doesn’t judge other people in some fashion. And I doubt if you are the exception, Louise.
    You come very close to it when you write: “It’s time for the church to clean its act.” Which church? And what are they doing that they need to clean up? However you answer that, it will lead you to pointing fingers at individuals. Cause that what churches are, individuals.

  • http://notabarbie.wordpress.com Notabarbie

    fishon,
    Defensive much?

  • http://www.lelightclub.com Louise la francofun!

    Fishon – again I repeat SELF-CRITIQUE is good!

  • fishon

    Louise la francofun!
    August 24, 2011 | 2:57 pm

    Fishon – again I repeat SELF-CRITIQUE is good!

    ——-And you judge no others???

  • http://www.lelightclub.com Louise la francofun!

    Fishon – what is the relevance to self-critique whether I do or not

  • fishon

    Louise la francofun!
    August 24, 2011 | 5:11 pm

    Fishon – what is the relevance to self-critique whether I do or not
    —My reactions to your words are based on what you said in your post I posted below.

    Louise la francofun!
    August 23, 2011 | 1:26 pm

    Our problem as believers is our lack of self-critique, yet our own scripture tells us judge not others lest ye be judged and that we shall be judged with the same measure as we have judged. I tell you by those standards, we deserve much harsher criticism than NakedPastor’s creative wit. It’s time for the church to clean its act.

  • Mack Enzian

    Seems to be a conflict of models here, particularly the following two.

    One model describes “the church” as “they” and “their”. You might use this model if you believe that your church (i.e. your family, local group, congregation, or denomination of heritage or choice) is substantially distinct from The Church at large. As such, any issues in The Church or in other churches are not your issues; any other group’s ministers are not your ministers; they belong to someone else and you don’t have to be concerned about them. In fact, you might not even recognize that people experience these problems and take umbrage at the suggestion that they do, in The Church.

    Another model describes “the church” as “we” and “our.” You might use this model if you believe that your family, local group, congregation, or denomination of heritage or choice is socially and spiritually one with all other churches and denominations, that while your group may have different polities, politics, and staff, any issues faced elsewhere occur as if they occurred to you and yours. Therefore the well-being and practice of other ministers and members is your concern. And you consider it your responsibility to acknowledge and address.

    I suspect that in the first of these models, one might ask, “Why do They keep saying this about The Church?” And in the second model, one might say “How can we deal with this issue better?”


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