questions for steeples

steeple question cartoon by nakedpastor david hayward

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Someone sent me a picture of a cross being removed from a church steeple. I immediately imagined it being replaced with a huge question mark.

Question everything. Let yourself doubt.

Don’t be afraid as you enter the land of promise rather than the land of guarantees.

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About David Hayward

David Hayward runs the blog nakedpastor as a graffiti artist on the walls of religion where he critiques religion… specifically Christianity and the church. He also runs the online community The Lasting Supper where people can help themselves discover, explore and live in spiritual freedom.

  • http://lotharlorraine.wordpress.com/ Lothar Lorraine

    Hello David, the Cartoon shows us a false dichotomy.
    Why not let the cross where it is and ADD the question mark?

    This is what the author of Mark’s Gospel did after having described the discovery of the empty tomb by the female followers and ending his gospel right at that place.

    Lovely greetings from continental Europe.

    Lothars Sohn – Lothar’s son

    http://lotharlorraine.wordpress.com

  • Cecilia Davidson

    People are scared to doubt, though, because that means the things they were taught might not necessarily have even a kernel of truth to them. They will cling to “answers,” instead, and some will attack those who willingly question and criticize the same by saying “you’re calling my beliefs baloney” or similar.

  • tom sellier

    Born again believers in Jesus Christ do not need to ask questions. The Holy Spirit that only we born again ones have answers all our doubts with faith.

  • tom sellier
  • http://religiouscomics.net/ Jeff P

    I think you have to be willing to take the cross down if you are truly to examine things. You can then always put it back up later on when you are done.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    Believing that points written 2000 years ago can answer more complex questions here and now is a very dangerous thing to do, in this atheist’s opinion. Even Jesus asked “Father, why have you abandoned me?” on the cross. He had his doubts and got NO answer until after he died.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    I’m not sure what you’re trying to achieve here.

  • Gary

    This is a most dangerous belief. It is also used as a club to control people who would rightly question false teachers and false teaching.

  • Livin

    Doubting is fine eveybody doubts. But you have to have blind faith. Otherwise your only option is Atheism.

  • http://saintsnotsinners.org/ D. R. Silva

    Nope.

  • Mark

    I like this one. Wouldn’t it be nice if the church openly encouraged us to question? And, as for that cross, while there’s no denying it’s the universal icon of Christianity, I no longer believe that Jesus “died for my sins,” and I’ve quit wearing mine.

  • Mark

    No, I don’t see it as either blind faith or atheism. I believe in something greater than us, but not in a literal, fundamentalist translation of the bible. And I also believe that we don’t need the bible to find God. When you stop asking questions, your faith becomes stagnant. Following Jesus is a personal thing, and we shouldn’t be content to accept someone else’s answers, Come to him as a child, questioning everything.

  • Libby

    omg please tell me I did not just read that.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    No, there are options.
    Being a religious person seeking answers but understanding that none can be provided readily.
    Being an atheist.
    Without questioning, you can’t learn and grow.

  • Gary

    No I absolutely do not believe in a “blind” faith. Blind faith is simply choosing ignorance. And stating that ignorance and atheism are the only two choices is most certainly a false dichotomy.

  • Livin

    Questions never stop and God dose extend beyond the Christian community but that is his realm not ours. You can question all you want but when you go outside of Traditional Christian tradition or the Bible to find answers you are no longer a Christian.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    Excuse me, but you’re practicing something called the No True Scotsman fallacy, which very much weakens your argument.
    Christianity took from Judaism
    which took from Zoroastrianism
    Christianity got its feasts from the pagans.

    Who are you to even suggest that “going outside of traditional Christianity” is a bad thing?

  • Steve

    It seems to me that there is a love “questions” but unaccountability with answers. That is to say, there is a desire to see everything in flux, nothing known for certain, no truths established – no matter how logical or well-thought out. There are many complaints about a Church that allows no questions. But shall the church have no answers?

  • tom sellier

    No one is asking you to believe it. I have all the answers I need. David wants to drag everyone he can down to the level of unbelief he has so he won’t be lonely. But hell is a very lonely place.

  • http://religiouscomics.net/ Jeff P

    I thought the theology says that most people are going to hell so wouldn’t heaven be the lonely place?

  • Mark

    Who are you to tell me, or anyone, what a Christian can and can’t believe? That is very arrogant. In fact, I’m trying to follow the example of Jesus, and don’t terribly care whether I’m labeled a Christian or not. But it certainly is not for you to say one way or the other.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    Your “answers” are not truly answers, but hate. Your anger and hate are not welcome here. Please find the root for your anger and hate and calm yourself.

  • tom sellier

    No. Heaven is going to be a wondrous place filled! You have no idea what you will be missing out on. But if you reject Christ as Savior you won’t even know. You won’t have time to know.

  • tom sellier

    Cecilia, they are hate to you because you are seeing through the eyes of unbelief. David knows I’m telling him the truth. It is a sad condition to be rejected by those whom you crave respect from. That is why David is so angry at Christians.

  • http://religiouscomics.net/ Jeff P

    Well if heaven is so nice, I will just have to pop up there for a visit. If I do, I’ll look you up and the big J Himself. No worries mate.

    Don’t believe everything that the guy in the purple robe says up on the stage or the things from the book he quotes.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    I’d rather go to hell if heaven is full of bigots and trolls like yourself, sir.

  • Duane

    Your implication that Jesus statement was an indication of doubt…is incorrect. It was a quote from Psalm 22. That statement was a reminder to all that He was fulfilling even unto death the prophesies of old. But…to those “believers” believing that they have all the answers need to be extremely cautious. The mystery of that separation is far too deep even for the most mature believer to fathom. But God has revealed the basic truth of it for us to accept and to understand to the limit of our ability under the illumination of His Spirit. And nowhere in Scripture can we behold the reality of Jesus’ sacrificial death and the anguish of His separation from His Father more clearly and penetratingly than in His suffering on the cross because of sin. In the midst of being willingly engulfed in our sins and the sins of all men of all time, He writhed in anguish not from the lacerations on His back or the thorns that still pierced His head or the nails that held Him to the cross but from the incomparably painful loss of fellowship with His heavenly Father that His becoming sin for us had brought. I do believe, however, that we give mankind incorrect credit if we believe that we today have greater complexity to our questions then mankind did 2000 years ago. And yes….the truths of Scripture can and does….even today….provide us with answers. The problem is….for believers and unbelievers alike….we just don’t want to hear it.

    ……peace Cecillia

  • Gary

    You are fucked up man to come in here and make such an ass of yourself. Something tells me you are not doing the whole gospel thing right.

  • Duane

    I really appreciate your openness and willingness to share your thoughts, Cecillia. And I have no doubt that you have wrestled with much of the “answers” the church and the world have offered up to humanity. As a believer in and follower of Christ I wish more people sitting in the pews of so many churches in America were more like you….and to have the sense to doubt, or to question, what is spoken from behind so many pulpits. From my perspective one cannot truly believe unless they have doubted first. Doubt is the path that leads to belief. Doubt is what opens our minds and should motivate to be responsible for our beliefs. It will always….if we allow….cause us to search for ourselves the answers. And for myself personally….it lead me to believe Jesus Christ…..without any doubt.

    ….peace

  • Livin

    You are assuming. I never said it was a bad thing but it dose make you a non-christian. Just the truth.

  • Duane

    Okay….so….if I am understanding this argument correctly….we should question answers. Not an unhealthy approach I would agree. But…perhaps it would be much more profitable for us to apply that stance to our own beliefs before applying to another’s. I would like to ask you a couple of questions if I may Mark. You said, “I believe in something greater than us…” What is that something? Is it truly possible to believe in something without being able to define what that something is….specifically? I agree we don’t need the Bible to find God. That is not the purpose of the Bible. However, to your statement, “When you stop asking questions, your faith becomes stagnant.” I would have to ask what your definition of faith is. In it’s very essence faith is never stagnant…it would not be faith if your statement were true. Faith is a necessary component for any answer to any question concerning the things of God, no matter what our personal belief system is. Why? Because only “Faith” separates the limited intellect of man from God….or even a “something greater than us”. Even your personal beliefs acknowledge that there is something greater than us. If that is truly your belief…than you too are exercising a great deal of faith in coming to your conclusion. If you are continuing to question even your personal belief than you have not yet discovered faith….and have not yet found the answer to the question you your own intellect raises within your being.

    I appreciate that you are seeking…..when we stop seeking we become stagnant. The Truth will eliminate the need to question the Truth so that we can question the things being declared to us by preachers, teachers, and the world as being true.

    ….peace Marc

  • Mark

    I agree that when we stop seeking – I say questioning – we become stagnant. I am seeking a better understanding of the truth. So far this search has moved me to the belief that the bible doesn’t have all the answers and that Jesus isn’t the only way to the kingdom of God (ie, I believe that non-Christian seekers are not excluded). I have been questioning my personal beliefs for the better part of sixty years, and they are not what they were 40, or 20, or 10 years ago. I’ve had people tell my I have no faith, and others tell me I put my faith in evolution.

    What I don’t believe is that one needs “blind faith,” as ‘Livin’ states. To me, that is merely giving someone else authority to tell you what the truth is, and not bothering to seek it out for yourself.

  • Duane

    I understand what you are saying. Hmmm…..so…..there must be a truth out there right? I mean….why would we seek something that is not out there to find. Okay….so, say I wanted the truth about how old you are. I’ve never met you, I’ve never seen you and I have never spoken to you. In fact, the only evidence I have that you even really exist at all is because of the words written in a comment with your image and name assigned to it. If I asked you how old you were and you had written that you were 64 years old…..what would I have to satisfy my question of how old you were? Only your written word. But, if I desired a better understanding of the truth of your age would I want to go to your neighbor?…..someone you conversed with on a blog?…..someone who never heard of you?….or someone who does not even believe you exist?

    No. If I wanted to know and believe how old you are I would have to accept in faith that you spoke the truth in your written word. To have that faith I would need to believe first that you existed…..and that you would not lie to me…..and that you spoke the one and only reliable answer to the truth that you are 64. That is not blind faith….but without the elements of faith I could never believe any answer given from any source….not even the answer you gave….which was ultimately the only truth that warranted my faith.

    peace Mark…..

  • tom sellier

    Because you think something doesn’t make it true Cecilia. In fact how can you know what you are talking about if you don’t know the one you are slandering. Jesus did nothing to you. And you can’t say you aren’t talking about Him because if you slander His you are slandering Him. We are all going to heaven NOT because we are some super human Christian like you are but simply because Jesus died on the cross for us and we rejoice in that sacrifice!
    But you go ahead and think of yourself as super awesome and worthy of rejecting heaven. Now. You will regret it after you breath the last of God’s air. As will all who reject grace.

  • tom sellier

    Come in where? I didn’t know David was so unable to defend his beliefs that he needed you to stand up and break his rules to attack me! Sounds like what you accuse me of you are yourself. You are related to Cain by your own choice.

  • Gary

    Don’t bother attempting to deflect on us…we all see you for the hate filled troll you are.

  • Gary

    What a bunch of ignorant dribble. When you must resort to making inane claims that those who disagree with you actually know you are right…you have totally lost all claim to intelligent discourse. But then…that is what TROLLS do I guess.

  • Gary

    There it is…that boogeyman god threat. I knew you had to pull it out sometime…LOL.

  • http://nakedpastor.com/ nakedpastor

    I’m not angry at Christians, and I do NOT know that what you’re telling me is the truth. In fact, it is not.

  • http://nakedpastor.com/ nakedpastor

    Tom: are you a real person? You sound like a troll and I will have to block you.

  • Gary

    Utter nonsense. “Traditional Christian” means nothing more than following the masses…even if they stray off the mark. Jesus was most certainly NOT a “traditional” follower of the church in His day. Actually He was quite the opposite.

    You do not get to define what it means to be “Christian”.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    If God has to threaten me to love him, it’s not love. You really need to get your theology in order, Tom

  • Cecilia Davidson

    Even then, it can be taken as a cry of anguish and questioning why this was happening. However, to state that all of the answers are in the Bible is to miss the point of the Bible – that it is an old text that was written in a context. These days, that context is RARE.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    There will be cases where doubt will lead to the disruption of the faith one had been raised to accept, but it is first necessary to doubt before deciding what is true.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    Then, by celebrating Christmas with a Christmas Tree and caroling, you’re not a Christian.


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