Quoting Quiverfull: Adulterer Always?

QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull honestly and thoughtfully.

Voddie Baucham  ‘No Divorce” Sermon

“If there is remarriage under any circumstances while the previous spouse is still alive, it is an act of adultery.”

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  • texcee

    Well, that IS what Jesus said, isn’t it? But I think there has been a huge amount of suffering over the past 2,000 years because of it.

  • Phatchick

    There is an answer in the Bible; Quoting the KJV- 1 Corinthians 7: 12-15
    12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
    13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
    14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
    15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

  • seculargal

    So is okay or not for Russell (Rusty) Yates to remarry & have babies with some other woman while his divorced mentally ill wife Andrea (who drowned their 5 innocent children) lives the rest of her days in an institution for the criminally insane?

  • saraquill

    We do NOT live in the Republic of Gilead, thank you very much. Most of us really don’t want to live there anyway.

  • http://krwordgazer.blogspot.com krwordgazer

    Actually, that ISN’T what Jesus said. What his audience in first-century Palestine heard, and what we read, are different. It’s just like today, when we say, “Don’t drink and drive.” 2000 years from now someone reading those words with no knowledge of our shared cultural assumptions, might think that no one could drink water while driving. But that isn’t what we mean, even if it would sound that way to a reader who lacked historical understanding.
    When the Pharisees said, “Can a man divorce his wife for any cause?” they were speaking of the “any cause” divorce advocated by Rabbi Hillel. I have a FAQ on this blog related to this subject:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2011/09/nlq-faq-the-bible-accountability-in-marriage-%E2%80%93-part-2-the-marriage-covenant-covenant-breaking/

  • Andrew

    Matthew 5:32 says the only valid reason for divorce under Mosaic law is when the one spouse has sex for money. Just sleeping around is actually not grounds for divorce according to this passage. If it was then text would use the word adultery, not fornication which refers to prostitution in the Greek. What gets really interesting is the imperative Christ gave to not marry and the fact that Christian marriage is a concession from the Lord, not an ordained institution. re 1 Corinthians 7

  • texcee

    Sorry I misquoted. It’s been years since I read the Bible, actually. I’ve been an agnostic for 30 years or more. Should have checked the source before I spoke.

  • http://krwordgazer.blogspot.com krwordgazer

    My understanding is that the word is “porneo,” and refers to any kind of sexual immorality– being a quotation from Deuteronomy that uses a similar Hebrew word.

  • http://krwordgazer.blogspot.com krwordgazer

    Also, this is not the only valid reason for divorce. Please see the link in my comment above.

  • Andrew

    Porneo means to sell. Leviticus never outlawed sex outside of marriage. It just forbade incest, bestiality, homosexuality, forced sex, and sex for money. The NT forbids sodomy. The anti-sex preachers assume that when human marriage ends we will be gender neutral but have no textual basis for that. All that Christ said was that in the kingdom we will no longer marry or give in marriage. Our biblical culture assumes that marriage began in the garden and that is how we translated the bible into English. But the Hebrew in Genesis makes no such distinction and instead says a man shall leave his mother and father and cleave unto his woman. As far as Leviticus is concerned, if a free man and a free woman had sexual relations it was not a sin against God, it was Israelite society requiring them to marry.

    As for the other valid reason yes I know about the unbelieving spouse not wanting to stay with a believer. However that same book, 1 Corinithians, instructs the unmarried to remain that way, the married to not put any end to their marriage except for death.

  • http://krwordgazer.blogspot.com krwordgazer

    Andrew, I am certain that “porneo” means more than just “to sell.” And if you read my link, you’d see that abuse, neglect and abandonment were also valid reasons for divorce in the Bible; the problem is that a disconnect from its Jewish roots caused the church from an early point in its history to misunderstand this.

  • Andrew

    porneo, when used literally, refers to prostitution. When used figuratively it means idolatry

  • Andrew

    I will admit it does it interesting when sexuality is looked at through a spiritual lens.


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