Quoting Quiverfull: Birth Contol & Hitler (Again!)

Kevin Swanson of Generations With Vision interviewing Christian filmmaker Kevin Peeples about his new movie “Birth Control: How Did We Get Here?”

Peeples: It starts with men and women fighting and not being happy with the role that God put them in that he laid out in Genesis. So whenever you seek to desire, when women seek to desire the men’s role, they lose the part and the idea of what children does, not just for the kingdom and not just does with their family, but does for their gender role.

Swanson: Are you saying that the population control stuff, egalitarian feminism, birth control, abortion, they’re all sort of interrelated?

Peeples: Yeah, it wasn’t until after World War II that they begin to separate them. Abortion, sterilization, eugenics and birth control were all tied together, they were all kind of a package for eugenics and population control. Hitler took the fall for taking it very aggressively and dramatically, and so they said, ‘Hey, let’s kind of take this back, let’s get rid of the negative things and let’s play on Christian liberty, let’s play on freedom, let’s play on people kind of taking this upon themselves to control population rather than forcing it on them. So, again, it’s just another effect of not researching our history to know what happened in the world alongside of the Church.

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  • chervil

    Someone’s really going to have to explain to me what this guy is saying. I just don’t speak Fundese that fluently. But yes, there seems to be a Hilter fetish when it comes to discussing birth control, but they never seem to mention the Ehrenkreuz der Deutschen Mutter, medals awarded for the best breeders, the most fecund mothers. Gold, silver and bronze medals were awarded, depending on the quantity. I believe the idealization of motherhood played an integral part in Hitler’s rise in popularity and he counted on gaining the support of women, by making all kinds of promises that they’d never have to work and their lives would be improved. Don’t know where I’ve heard that before, but if you want to talk Hitler, let’s talk.

  • http://krwordgazer.blogspot.com krwordgazer

    I just finished reading a book called Broken Words: The Abuse of Science and Faith in American Politics by Jonathan Dudley that absolutely shows this entire declaration to be false. It shows that evangelical Protestants were actually not against abortion at all in early American history– this was a Catholic stance that was not adopted by Protestants until the 1970′s, actually. He quotes many evangelicals from 1890 and before as agreeing with Aquinas and Augustine that there could be no “ensoulment” of the fetus until it was in complex enough form for the soul to inhabit, and that abortion prior to “ensoulment” was not considered wrong and was actually extensively used by Protestant women (and especially married ones!) as a form of birth control. Hitler was actually against birth control for Aryan women.

  • Sandy

    Kristin,

    Did the book describe the stage that “ensoulment” could occur? Just wondering.

  • Sandy

    Kristin,

    Did the book describe the stage that “ensoulment” could occur? Just wondering.

  • http://krwordgazer.blogspot.com krwordgazer

    Sandy, they believed that “ensoulment” happened at the time of “quickening,” which was when the mother first felt the movement of the child at around 4 months. But the real idea was that the brain needed to be sufficiently complex for the human soul to inhabit it. They thought that when the mother first felt movement was the first time the fetus could move on its own. I think they might have moved the age back some if they’d known more about fetal development in the womb. But I don’t think they’d have objected to first-trimester abortion in any event.

  • SAO

    Having had an early miscarriage, the ensoulment idea makes sense to me (not that I believe in souls). The products of my miscarriage (a couple months) were lumpy blood clots. I looked for signs of a baby, but didn’t see one (the doctor saw one on the ultrasound a week before and pointed it out to me, but it didn’t look like much to me). I didn’t preserve the mess to be examined with a microscope.

    Throughout history, people must have been acquainted with the products of miscarriage at every stage of pregnancy. It’s easy to believe that an invisible clump of cells or a tiny tadpole in the middle of lumpy blood mess just didn’t seem worthy of being considered human. And frankly, healthier for the parents, too, to have lost a potential child, rather than a child.

  • Stacey B.

    The Fundamentalists should stop it with the Hitler business already. It’s getting old.

  • Lolly

    The idea was to create more of the only the right sort of people, who would be raised with the right sort of thinking and lead the right sort of lives. Counter-Godwinned, Peeples.

  • Petticoat Philosopher

    Oh yeah, Hitler loved that stuff. He had a big fetish for traditional “folk” culture and was all about pro-natalism–at least when it came to the Aryan race. All these fundies howling about eugenics don’t seem to realize that getting the “right” people to procreate was just as much a part of the philosophy as getting the “wrong” people to not procreate. With their “demographic winter” hysteria, they’re far closer to the eugenics mentality than any of the people they demonize.

  • Janine

    That sounds like a fascinating book Kristin. I’d love to read more of your thoughts on it if you ever write a review for your blog.

  • suzannecalulu

    I had to bypass three quotes that were pretty awesomely bad this morning because…. drum roll please…. Hitler was mentioned.


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