Quoting Quiverfull: The Way It Is?

From Pat Robertson of CBN and The 700 Club

“I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that’s the way it is, period.”

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QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • texcee

    I have two words for Pat — BULL SH*T.

  • Nea

    Wrong. Period.

  • http://biblicalpersonhood.wordpress.com/ Retha

    Does Pat at all concern himself with what figurative meanings head – the literal meaning the thing above the neck – had in first century culture? We English speakers of recent centuries give it the figurative meaning “leader”, but did it have that meaning to a first century Greek speaker, like Paul who wrote down the Greek words for “the husband is the head of the wife”?

    • http://www.facebook.com/revsharkie Sharla Hulsey

      There’s a very good book out there that explores exactly what the word Paul chose meant, and what he intended to say about the relationship between husbands and wives. It’s called “What Paul Really Said about Women,” and the author is John Bristow (who happens to be a good friend of mine). He also has written one titled “What the Bible Really Says about Love, Marriage and Family.” Both are worth looking at. John makes a really good case that Paul himself was not the misogynist that the church has made him out to be for centuries.

  • stairway to heaven

    Opens up a whole other discussion. What happens if your ”headship” is the kind of monumental loser/sick, controlling, narcissistic A-hole that seems attracted to those type of beliefs?

  • Nightshade

    Okaaaay, let’s play devil’s advocate here and assume for the sake of argument that Pat is right…he’s forgetting that what is does not have to remain so, and what has been accepted can be rejected if necessary.

  • Drea

    Hmmm, I wonder what he would say about my marriage. I currently work full time, and my husband is in school. He also does the majority of the house chores, since he’s home more. That must be terrible for headship….

    • madame

      As long as it was your husband’s idea, Pat Robertson is fine with your situation.

  • BabyRaptor

    I wonder if it bothers him that there are thousands, maybe even millions, of women out there-some even in Christianity-who completely reject his premise, despite his insistence that there’s no other way “period.”

    He’s like a little child stomping his feet.

  • Rae

    No wonder we’re all turning into lesbians!

    /sarcasm

    • saraquill

      Yeah, I’m curious as to how same sex marriages fit into this narrow little world view.

  • texcee

    If my husband was more than the titular “head of the household”, we would be up a creek without a paddle. He has been on medical retirement for 13 years and hasn’t worked since January 2000. In order to qualify for Social Security, he took an admittedly serious illness and nearly turned it into a terminal one by taking to his bed for over a year, gaining weight until he weighed over 500 lbs., becoming unable to walk, breathe or care for himself. I had to quit my job to care for him and we existed on whatever temp work I could find. Meanwhile, I was doing everything from attempting to keep us from declaring bankruptcy (which we eventually had to do) to literally wiping his bottom when he went to the toilet because he was so obese he couldn’t reach around that far. After bariatric surgery, he improved a bit but is still over 350 lbs and is a total slob. He doesn’t bathe or wash his hair for weeks on end, doesn’t change his clothing, and has grown a long scraggly beard. We haven’t had a sex life since about 1998 and our marriage is pretty much a sham. I support the family on my paycheck. Why don’t I leave him? Beats me, except that I feel tremendous guilt about abandoning him (although God knows he abandoned ME years ago in everything but physical presence). Am I way too loyal or way too stupid? Anyway, back to the original question, yeah, THIS is the man whom Pat Robertson says I should submit myself to and allow him to be the End All and Be All of our house.

    • suzannecalulu

      Oh texcee I am so sorry! Is there any way you can carve out a life for yourself while you’ll caring for him?

      • texcee

        Thanks, Calulu. I think I HAVE carved out a life for myself by deciding that he can stay in his rut if he wants to, but I’m not waiting on him. I stopped taking care of him years ago because I knew he was capable of taking care of himself. (How hard is it to wet a wash cloth and run it over your body?) I have a good job now, after suffering through the recession unemployed, plus I inherited some dough from my mother’s estate, which is put back where he can’t touch it. It helps to know that I CAN leave anytime I decide to, but as I said, I’m ridiculously loyal because that’s my nature, even though I’ve been emotionally abused my entire life (but that’s a whole ‘nuther story). I stay also because I couldn’t find a place to live for less than twice or three times as much the house payment is. So, it’s partly financial, too.

        • suzannecalulu

          Having your own life independent on them before you decide to leave is the only way. Glad you’ve found a way


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