Quoting Quiverfull: God’s Army

by Nancy Campbell from the book “I Fired God” by Jocelyn R. Zichterman and the Above Rubies website.

God is looking for an Army. The greatest threat to Satan in this world is godly parents that understand God’s intentions and will bring forth and train a Godly seed to fulfill His eternal plans. God’s people have unwittingly decreased God’s army in this hour. The womb is a powerful weapon against Satan!

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QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull honestly and thoughtfully.

 

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Breaking Their Will: Shedding Light on Religious Child Maltreatment‘ by Janet Heimlich

Quivering Daughters‘ by Hillary McFarland

Quiverfull: Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement‘ by Kathryn Joyce

 

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  • Terence

    This is absolute rubbish. Your god wants an army to defeat satan yet he is god and stronger than satan so the need for an army is pretty pathetic. Also doesn’t Satan need to ask permission from god to do anything? Satan is gods slave so this whole thing is contradictory.

  • Nea

    I don’t care what her god is looking for; I care that she expects me to live in her world. I’ve seen the results of those misinformed, undereducated soldiers coming online to fight their “war,” and the results are always messy — for God’s army.

  • texcee

    I have to wonder what “god” these people are worshipping who is so weak and powerless that he needs followers to supply him with an army of babies to right his battles. If he is GOD, able to create and rule the universe, from the mightiest black hole in the most distant galaxy, down to knowing when a sparrow falls or the number of hairs on your head, shouldn’t he be able to bring an indestructible army of supernatural warriors into existence with a sweep of his hand or defeat Satan with a blast of lightning from his eyes? You can’t have it both ways — either God is all-powerful or he isn’t. And if he isn’t, then he isn’t God. Choose.

    • http://krwordgazer.blogspot.com krwordgazer

      I agree that the concept of God needing an army is incompatible with the over-emphasis on God’s sovereignty that most people in this movement espouse. However, there is another choice besides “either God is all-powerful or he isn’t.” Many Christians believe that God is all-powerful, but deliberately limits his use of power specifically because he values human participation.
      That said, there is absolutely nothing in the New Testament that says women are to have babies to raise up an army for God, or makes any distinction at all between men and women in the “warfare” against evil.

  • Sal

    Not sure how anybody can support the conscription of child soldiers, even if it’s a spiritual battle.

  • http://biblicalpersonhood.wordpress.com Retha

    Nancy Campbell say: “God is looking for an Army. The greatest threat to Satan in this world is godly parents that understand God’s intentions and will bring forth and train a Godly seed to fulfill His eternal plans. God’s people have unwittingly decreased God’s army in this hour. The womb is a powerful weapon against Satan!”

    I say: “God is looking for an Army. The greatest threat to Satan in this world <bChristians that understand God’s intentions and will fulfill His eternal plans, as opposed to bringing forth and training others and looking at them to do so.God’s people have unwittingly decreased God’s army in this hour by not fulfilling plans, but instead hoping to bring forth and train others to do so. Leaving quiverfull ideas of the womb behind can be a powerful weapon against Satan!”

    And – after being army ourselves – it is mathematically more effective for the church to make disciples outside your family than to breed your own children to evangelize. To explain that, think of two communities, each with 100 Christians and 100 non-Christians. Annie and Ben, live in one of those communities, have 6 children and raise 5 of them to stay Christians. Their community now has 105 Christians and 101 non-Christians, they caused a net gain of 4. Now imagine that Christa and Dan, instead of having children, pray for their community, spread the gospel, and live in an authentic way that make Christianity attractive. Over the next 25 years (the time it took Annie and Ben to raise 6 children) Christa and Dan leads 5 unbelievers to the Lord. That would mean their community now has 105 believers and 95 unbelievers, a net gain of 10 more believers than unbelievers. And if God does not want 1 person to be lost, God has a few less people to be unhappy about here, while Annie and Ben caused him unhappiness by raising an unbeliever. Christa and Dan had success by choosing not to have children, but to disciple without the womb.

    In short, I believe that “Christians should have more children for the sake of the Kingdom” is a lie from satan, and those at the top of spreading it have other motives than spreading God’s kingdom. Their followers are sincere, but deceived, and distracted from the kingdom by family responsibilities, doing something God never ordered. If people want 6+ children – fine. If they believe that having children is done for the sake of God – God never mandated it.

  • K

    This puts so much pressure on these poor children who have such high expectations on them from an early age. They dont get a say in this. They dont get the opportunities that other children have because theyre thought of as nothing more than soldiers in an imaginary war.

    • Kimberly

      An “…imaginary war” that keeps Christian book companies, radio programs, news magazines, and television shows in business. An “imaginary war” that creates fear of government unless it’s far right, fear of schools, fear of strangers, fear of liberal Christians, fear of sex, fear of alcohol, tattoos, piercings… An “imaginary war” that causes Christians to judge and disdain the very people God calls them to love.

      • http:///krwordgazer.blogspot.com Kristen Rosser

        Well said. This imaginary war has nothing to do with the “warfare [which is] NOT against flesh and blood” which Paul in the New Testament says Christians are involved in. He said it was a spiritual war against spiritual forces of evil, not a political war against fellow citizens.

  • http://lostreef.blogspot.com/ Lasseter

    There is a long and venerable tradition, going right back into the Scriptures, of the language of spiritual warfare. One individual’s or group’s misappropriation of it should not be seen as cause to condemn the entire idiom. Also, it’s troubling whenever some whackadoodle commentary on the Bible or movement in “theology” is taken by critics as the springboard to impugn God rather than just criticizing the bizarre commentary or untenable theology.

    Good comment above by krwordgazer.


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