Quoting Quiverfull: No Wimps Allowed?

by Nancy Campbell from Above Rubies – Do You Have Sons?

How old was Solomon when he became king? Some commentaries say 12 years old. Josephus says he was 14 years old. And other commentaries say 20 years old. Whatever is correct, he was a very young man, and yet expected to be strong and courageous and take on the governing of a nation.

We have lessened our expectations for young men today. In fact, it seems this nation wants to dumb them down. They are frowned on for doing manly things and babied into their twenties. Yes, mothers, we’ll mother and smother our little baby sons, but as they grow, we’ll take our hands off, let go of fear, and allow them to grow into men–at a young age!

Why do so many young men get into trouble in their teens? There’s never meant to be a teen stage. By the time they are 12, they should be training in manhood and have opportunity to do manly things and act like a man. They should face difficulties with courage and strength. They should be preparing to provide for a home.

Let’s raise men, not wimps!

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QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • gimpi1

    12-13 year-olds in positions of authority, “acting like men.” Well, that would explain much of the goofier aspects of history, I suppose.

    I don’t suppose it might dawn on the author of this piece that people did not live as long in the past. If you most likely will be dead by 45, 15-16 seems to be getting up there. If you expect to live to be 75-80, not so much. We might also want to remember just how !$#&ed up much of history was. I, personally, have no desire to revisit the inquisition.

    Oh, and I believe the best science out there has studied brain development in adolescence, and adolescent brains are not the same as adult brains. Wow, our brains continue to grow and develop during adolescence. I guess that gives lie to that whole “there’s no such thing as a teenager” myth. Oh, wait, science. Never mind.

  • Petticoat Philosopher

    How old was Moses when he led the Israelites out of Egypt? The Bible says he was 80 years old. He was a very old man and yet expected to strong and courageous and take on the liberation of his people.

    We have lessened our expectations for octogenarians today. In fact, it seems this nation wants to dumb them down. They are frowned on for doing manly things and coddled in their 80s. Yes, children, we’ll expect adults of young and middle age to do the work of society, and as they grow old, well, we’ll keep right on expecting them to do that–at an old age!

    Why do so many old men take naps in their 80s? There’s never meant to be an elderly stage. Even when they are 80, they should have the opportunity to do all the same things younger adults do and act like young adults. They should face difficulties with courage and strength. They should still be providing for a home.

    Let’s expect our aging fathers and grandfathers to be “men” not wimps!

    Or alternatively, perhaps recognize that biblical lifespans and life stages don’t have a whole lot to do with our reality…just a thought.

  • Petticoat Philosopher

    Except, even in historic times (the good ol’ days, of course), 12-year-old boys were not governing nations–not really. I know in England at least, if a child succeeded the throne, a Regent was appointed to do the actual work of governing until the monarch reached the age of majority. (As with Henry VIII’s son Edward VI, who “ruled” from the age of 9 until his death at 16.) And you can accuse historic England of being a lot of things but “wimpy?” Not so much.

  • gimpi1

    You’re right, of course, Petticoat. However, the accurate history, including regency, of Europe is probably as as anathema as accurate science.

  • gimpi1

    I was more referring to the young “child-soldiers” that were sadly common in the past, the young marriages, and the cases of young nobles often running households and estates, when there was no check on their actions through a regent.

    The past is not better. Anyone who thinks it was is sadly ignorant of history.

  • Madame

    Solomon. Wasn’t he the guy with the 700 wives and 300 concubines? Didn’t all his wisdom go to his head? Iirc, he kind of lost it after a while. Perhaps it’s best to let adolescents grow up and learn how to look after themselves and control themselves before you put them in charge of anything but a pet (that you remind them to feed and care for, of course)

  • Saraquill

    So wanting boys to stay in school past the age of 12 makes them stupid?

  • http://biblicalpersonhood.wordpress.com/ Retha Faurie

    “There’s never meant to be a teen stage. ”
    What evidence does she have for that?

  • Theo Darling

    Brb throwing up


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