“Real Marriage” review: 156-176, “Selfish Lovers and Servant Lovers”

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by Samantha Field cross posted from her blog Defeating The Dragons [note: this post inspired some swearing] This chapter seems to be laying all the necessary groundwork for the last chapter in the “Sex” section of the book, and from the title (“Can We ____?”) I’m guessing that’s the one that caused some of the firestorm around it. Honestly, unless he does something drastic in that last chapter, I’m going to be a little confused as to why people were so bothered, since he hasn’t said too much at this point that I haven’t heard echoed in plenty of other corners. … [Read more...]

“Real Marriage” review: 107-122, ‘Sex: God, Gross or Gift?’

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by Samantha Field cross posted from her blog Defeating The Dragons This chapter seems to be Mark and Grace’s attempt at establishing a historical context for arguments they’ll make later; it’s basically nothing more than an extremely truncated and condensed version of how sex has been viewed in Ancient Near Eastern (“biblical”) and Christian cultures. The unfortunate thing is that their history lesson is … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 8 – Dancing With the Devil?

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by Michael Pearl from No Greater Joy - When the Worst HappensA reader brought up an excellent point yesterday. What does Michael advocate doing if your child is the aggressor or sexual offender. So I'm posting a few more parts of this long article to answer that question, or attempt to answer it. … [Read more...]

Sex Ed

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by Kaleesha Williams cross posted from her blog The Lost (And Found) Mind of Kaleesha WilliamsAre you going to give your children sex education and how?Okay, how about some random, rambling thoughts and interesting links? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Natural Body Odors Are A Turn On?

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by Michael Pearl from his book "Holy Sex"Trigger warning! May make you throw up! … [Read more...]

Mark and Grace Driscoll’s “Real Marriage” Review Series

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by Samantha Fields cross posted from her blog Defeating The Dragons A little while ago, I put together a list of the most popular Christian marriage advice books. I made this list based on a variety of factors; I looked at a bunch of “best of” lists and found the ones that showed up on more than one, or had the most reviews– and the most positive reviews– on Goodreads, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Christianbook . . . I also tried to limit the list to books that were extremely popular and well-known, that appeared frequently in church curriculum or pre-marital counseling materials. After I had the list, I put up a poll on the next book I should review as part of an extended review series. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Premarital Sex Always Sin?

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by The Forgiven Wife - Lessons Learned from Premarital Sex … [Read more...]

Premarital Sex and Marital Problems

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love, Joy, FeminismI’ve written a lot about my parents decision to have us children court rather than date. From time to time I’ve seen readers express confusion as to why parents would reject for their children a process that worked for them. The truth is that my parents turned to courtship for my siblings and I because they believed that dating hadn’tworked for them.I recently mentioned that I was conceived before my parents married. In other words, when my parents taught my siblings and I abstinence before marriage, they were teaching us something they had not themselves practiced. Reader Angela saw this as hypocritical: … [Read more...]

Not Quoting Quiverfull: Retracting Harmful Words Towards Gays in Church

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from Buzz Feed -Exclusive: 9 Former Ex-Gay Leaders Join Movement to Ban Gay Conversion TherapyShort excerpt from the letter: … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Defrauding Your Spouse?

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by Michael Pearl from his book 'Holy Sex' at the 80% mark on the Kindle since Michael didn't provide page counts for the electronic version. "Defraud ye not one the other...[To withhold sexual satisfaction from one's partner is to defraud]... except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency" (1 Corinthians 7:5) … [Read more...]


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