Quoting Quiverfull: So Frozen Embryos Are Babies Too?

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Remember the recent Quoting Quiverfull that our founder Vyckie Garrison commented on? The lady who already has adopted children and special needs children who is going to behaving more babies from frozen embryos of someone else where the other embryos resulted in children with profound disabilities? Apparently the Internet and it's commenters have given her some push-back instead of showering her with praise for her sacrifices. She's explaining her thoughts in her blog on the 'why'.Another kid collector. Hope things go better for this lady than some of the other Evangelical Christian child collectors. Child collecting is also at the heart of what being Quiverfull means. … [Read more...]

Not Quoting Quiverfull: ‘Religious Enthusiasm’ Was Once Considered Mental Illness?

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Someone sent this to me on Facebook. It's a purported list of things that would be considered mental illness and land you in a British mental asylum during the late 1800s. 'Over Study of Religion' and 'Religious Enthusiasm' are listed as reasons to be committed along with some pretty surprising things such as being abused by your husband or novel reading.When did religious enthusiasm because normalized, or even glorified?For your amusement..Comments open below NLQ Recommended Reading … Quiverfull: Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement by Kathryn Joyce 13:24 - A Story of Faith and Obsession by M Dolon Hickmon<A HR … [Read more...]

Not Quoting Quiverfull: Remembering 9/11 – Love Endures

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For once I cannot dispute something posted at the usual hysterically histrionic site Ladies Against Feminism. They posted this piece remembering the national tragedy of 9/11 and how we forgot our divisions to come together and that love itself is the only thing that really matters.This was one of those rare moments in this country where religion, race, class or other divisions suddenly didn't matter. Many citizens of our nation managed to put aside their differences and objections to just be people helping other people.Love: A Manifesto of Optimism by George Grant … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: When Did Home Cooking Get Elevated to “Godly” Status?

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Very interesting. Apparently Slate magazine posted a piece by a female writer who dared *gasp!* to say that putting a home cooked meal on the table nightly wasn't necessary and to stop fetishizing the entire idea. The ladies at Ladies Against Feminism became so outraged by that statement that they had to refute it not once, but twice on the same day. I am posting bits of each. Tell me what you think. Tempest in a teapot of the end of civilization as we know it?The article from Salon and the quoted pieces they seemed to object to the most Let's Stop Idealizing the Home-cooked Family Dinner by Amanda Marcotte … [Read more...]

Matthew 18 and Spiritual Abuse

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by Kristen Rosser cross posted from her blog Wordgazer's WordsI have been asked a few times over the last several months to do a blog post on Matthew 18:15-17, where Jesus teaches about what to do if a member of a Christian group is committing wrongs that are harmful enough that they cannot be overlooked.  Here's the text, from the 2011 NIV: “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they r … [Read more...]

Toxic Church

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by Living Liminal cross posted from her blog Living Liminal … [Read more...]

I Lost a Part of Me That I Will Never Get Back

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by Lana Hope cross posted from her blog Wide Open Ground “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.” ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer HT, Ryan Stollar ____ I am not a huge fan of the Dr. Quinn the Medicine Woman series (in fact, I have a whole post written about the literary problems with this series sitting in my drafts, that I have not published). But there is one episode that I have watched over and over and over again. I have watched it so many times I have the lines memorized, yet I still watch it again and again. … [Read more...]

A Dusty Letter

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by Kaleesha Williams cross posted from her blog The Lost (And Found) Mind of Kaleesha Williams This afternoon while Denny and I were rearranging our bedroom a bit, I found a dusty letter on a shelf. I recognized my own handwriting. Well, it’s always interesting to come across notes of a writer tucked away here and there, even if the writer is myself. I’m a curious sort. I dusted it off and read it aloud to Denny. It was addressed to my heavenly father, Yahweh. (And like a good girl I’d written the date on it.) … [Read more...]

Why I Haven’t “Given Up On The Church”

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by Living Liminal from her blog Living LiminalThis morning, I read an article entitled Why You Shouldn’t Give up on the Church.The author is the son of a 'famous' christian. I am a 'nobody' in that particular world.He thinks "church is messy by nature." I have found it not messy, but dangerous.He says, "it’s where Jesus’ people are connected." I find I can connect with Jesus's people wherever I meet them.He opines that, "To leave the Church is to hurt yourself and to hurt others." I left because it was the only way to stop the hurt.His judgement: "leaving the Church... is escapism." My experience: leaving the institution was the only way to escape the abuse. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Having Needs is Feminism?

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by Bambi in her blog In The Nursery of the Nation - When There is No Joy to be Found in MotherhoodSome hints of No Greater Joy's Debi Pearl, her letters and her truly abusive advice is echoed by Bambi here.The letter she received at her blog: I prayed for 2 years to be able to stay home with my daughter and son I was then pregnant with. When my son was born 2 years ago, the Lord answered that prayer. Today I have a 2 and a 4 year old. I'm so thankful to have the privilege of being home with them; however I'm having major problems. I feel like I'm just drained, I find myself not wanting to spend time with them. I just can't take the constant needs, wants, cries, fights, spills and so … [Read more...]


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