Distinguishing Doctrine From Behavior

by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from her blog Under Much GraceI recently pointed out the connection between the Great Commission “Bible-based cult” and Vision Forum through the person of Geoffrey Botkin. The Great Commission group (GC, GCM, GCI, GCAC, etc.) has been classified as a variant group that follows of the shepherding/discipleship/submission doctrine, terms with which many Christians still remain unfamiliar. For the benefit of all, I would like to define these terms in the next few blog posts. Botkin, former Administriative Assistant and business partner of the founder of a very cultic … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 1 – Blogging Is IGNORING Your Family?

by Lori Alexander from Always Learning - Blogging and Neglecting Your FamilyEditor's note: Oh this is just too toxic to completely unpack in one posting, but it's giving off the vibe that Lori thinks only older ladies can or should blog because she's feeling threatened in some way. Huge followings? Books? Touring the country giving speeches? Sounds more like the Green Eyed Monster of envy than any real worry about the unBiblicalness of blogging. What do you think? … [Read more...]

Answering ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’ – Clarification Needed: Type Combos

Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical,  rational and the best possible solution, in other words 1 … [Read more...]

NLQ Question of the Week: Are Many Fundamentalist Churches Cults?

This is a new series we have started running on Thursdays. Examining some of the questions involving long held Quiverfull theology and life.We have to talk about the 'C' word today: Cults. Is it possible for a Christian church to morph into a cult? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 2 – How to be a ‘Bad’ Church Member?

by Steven L. Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church – 3 Ways to be a Bad Church MemberEditor's note: Sorry, but there are many reasons people might not want to socialize with people from church more than saying 'Hi, how are ya!' in the narthex. Many fundamentalist churches are filled with people that live such small lives in limited circles that the business of everyone else is upper most in their minds. I've seen tremendous 'prayer-gossip' through the years, those that pretend to be your friend and then when they hear something about you, or you shame something about yourself they then share that information under the guise of 'praying for you' like this sequence from the movie " … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Suffering Makes You More Holy?

by Anonymous from Sow With Vision - Sowing While Suffering | Bitter WatersEditor's note: This is another one of those toxic reoccurring themes in Quiverfull: that suffering is somehow redemptive. Right after they tell you that your illness is punishment from God from unconfessed sin or generational curse. Or perhaps you weren't using the right essential oils or you drank too much soda. While there's only a little blaming for the suffering in this piece the thought that suffering and serious affliction somehow makes one more holy and closer to God is just as toxic and wrong. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: ‘Suck It Up’ and Smile?

by JES from Strangers and Pilgrims on Earth - Thoughts on Strong and Courageous Women ~ Not Prone to 'Fainting Fits'Editor's note: Continuing on from yesterday evening's theme of what is a 'strong woman' this momma seems to think it's the old 'suck it up and smile' thing that Nancy Campbell and others preach in Quiverfull. Deny your emotions and do what you need to do. While there are times when putting your own emotions on the shelf in order to deal with some in the moment situation it's not very mentally healthy to do that as a life style. Eventually those suppressed emotions will bubble to the surface like so much hot lava and scorch everything in their path. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Make the Best of all Situations?

by Vyckie Garrison at Raw Story - Duggar Cult Survivor Wants You to Meet the Powerful Women Who Make Other Women's Lives a Living HellEditor's note: Interrupting the nauseating screed by the Pearls on why women should always be cheerful to their menfolks to bring you this -- a recounting of poor Serene Campbell Allison's winter with no plumbing or heating. This is the reality for many women in Quiverfull when the house is filled with more children that can be supported on a Quiverfull male's likely labor-related small income. … [Read more...]

NLQ Question of the Week: Why Do Quiverfull Families Do Awful Things To Their Families and Claim God Told Them To Do It?

This is a new series we have started running on Thursdays. Examining some of the questions involving long held Quiverfull theology and life.One thing is for certain, in our real life circles of acquaintances at the old Quiverfull churches and in Quiverfull families online people make risky, not good for their children, their families, their finances, their health, and their emotional well being all the time and justify it by claiming that it's something that God called them to do. I'm talking about when it looks to the outside world that they're doing exactly … [Read more...]

A Few Thoughts About Mental Illness and Depression

by Bruce Gerencser cross posted from his blog The Life and Times of Bruce GerencserOriginally written 2011, edited, corrected.At the age of 54, my mother turned a .357 magnum Ruger revolver toward her chest and pulled the trigger. The bullet tore a hole in her heart and in a few moments she was dead. Mom had tried to kill herself many times before. This time she succeeded (please see the post Barbara).When I was 11, Dad had to call for an emergency squad because Mom had taken several bottles of prescription drugs. They rushed her to the hospital and pumped her stomach, and she survived to die another day. Later in the year, Mom and the neighbor lady were in a serious automobile … [Read more...]