You Can Fall in Lust But Not Love?

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by Calulu cross posted from her blog True Love Doesn't RapeVaughn Ohlman's latest scripture limbo playing fast and loose involves braying that it's not possible to 'fall' in love. Why? Well, because falling is mentioned in the Bible as a negative or passive word according to the few scriptures he managed to pull up and glom together to support his point.Hey, join in that FUN game, grab some scriptures and claim they mean all sorts of things it's likely they … [Read more...]

CTBHHM: In Which Debi Can’t Read Genesis

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy FeminismCreated To Be His Help Meet, pp. 118Debi starts this next section with a quick overview of what is required of a help meet: God tells us that we are to be help meets: We are to submit, obey, and even … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Don’t Work With Men as Equals?

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by Bill Gothard of ATI/Vision Forum (If not personally written by Bill he has approved the message)  "While unmarried women may have more flexibility in applying the principle that women were created for a domestic calling, it is not the ordinary and fitting role of women to work alongside men as their functional equals in public spheres of dominion … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Modesty Prayer?

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by Stacy McDonald of Ladies Against Feminism and Your Sacred Calling  -  Living out Biblical Principles: A Young Woman's Prayer of Chastity I have made a covenant with my body to be discreet and chaste; why then should I flaunt myself before men? Does God not see my ways and count all my steps (Job 31:1,4)? … [Read more...]

Seven Tips For Keeping Your Man

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These 'tips' are out of relationship books from the 1950s. Reading through them you can see that the 'advice' sounds very much like the writings of certain Quiverfull proponents and their words on how to treat your husband. Do we really want to go back sixty years? Cross posting this from the  Mental Floss site.Woman, you have no idea how lucky you are to have landed a man. But as the literature of the mid-century’s greatest matrimonial minds tells us, he’s one wrinkled shirt away from leaving you. Eyes open and mouth shut ladies. It’s about to get real. … [Read more...]

Why Betrothal Isn’t ‘The Answer’

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by Calulu cross posted from her blog True Love Doesn't RapeLast week brought the news that Vaughn Ohlman of True Love Doesn't Wait betrothed his son Joshua to a young lady up in Michigan named Laura Camp. I wish both of them well, they look like good well-scrubbed Fundie Christians. They're going to need all the luck and good wishes they can garner considering the explanation of betrothal Josh's dad gave in the wake of the announcement.Marriage isn't easy under the best of circumstances. It's a struggle sometimes to create a union where each is valued for who they are and both partners fit together in complimentary ways. Their type of betrothal sets up a pretty high potential for … [Read more...]

CTBHHM: An Army of Two

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy FeminismCreated To Be His Help Meet, pp. 117-118Hold onto your hats, because this week is going to be an interesting one. In this section, Debi is heavy on the military metaphors, and it gets pretty intense. Your husband, dud that he may “appear” to be, is appointed by God to be your immediate Superior Officer in the chain of command. Your position under him is where God put you for your own spiritual, emotional, and physical safety. It is the only position where you will find real fulfillment as a woman. Don’t worry about the quality of his leadership, for he is under the oversight of Jesus Christ. He must answer to God for how he le … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Public Schooling is Always Mediocre?

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by Carma from her blog Winging It and Ladies Against Feminism - Put Your Own Mask on First in response to an article at Salon - Private school vs. public school: If You Send Your Kid to Private School, You Are a Bad Person The gist of Ms. Benedikt’s article is the point she intends to make, which is:But it seems to me that if every single parent sent every single child to public school, public schools would improve. This would not happen immediately. It could take generations. Your children and grandchildren might get mediocre educations in the meantime, but it will be worth it, for the eventual common good. … [Read more...]

Sunday Shout Out: How Quick is Too Quick?

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 One of our readers on Facebook brought out a good question. She wanted to know what everyone thought about the fact that Joshua Ohlman and Laura Camp only knew each other a grand total of two hours before the betrothal was signed.Is it better to take more time than a few hours to decide if this is the person you are willing to spend the rest of your life with?You can sound off below in the comments or if you wish to write a longer piece for publication on this subject you can drop me a line at CaluluNLQ(at)gmail(dot)com  Results published next Sunday! … [Read more...]

Sunday Shout Out Replies: If I Love My Husband

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Answers to last week's question: If I love my husband....Independent Thinker: If I love my husband I will.................. Leave the house to run errands, Christmas shop, or get my hair done during all Green Bay Packer games that do not fall on a holiday so my husband can watch the game in peace. I will not text him at work because he has a real job that requires him to go to all day conferences or sit thru five hour meetings. My text messaging would effect his job performance and he needs to be focused at work most of the day. I will prioritize taking care of my health because I don't want to burden him with preventable health problems that could have been addressed before they got … [Read more...]


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