NLQ Open Comments: The Secular Quiverfull Movement

by VyckieI just came across The Secular Quiver: http://reversequiver.com/index.shtmlFrom the website:"Secular Quiver" is a movement that uses the principles of differential reproductive success to opposite ends. We think it's absurd that evangelical Christians are using the most basic principle of evolution when many don't even believe in it. We encourage scientifically minded individuals to reproduce and use alternative methods of spreading irreligious memes.Participate •Start your childbearing earlier •If you are gay or lesbian, consider the use of reproductive technologies such as IVF or artificial insemination •Homeschool your children •Blog about reverse quivering •Adopt and fost … [Read more...]

The Dead Village: Living With Disapproval

by SierraLeaving quiverfull/patriarchal Christianity means losing approval. It means your parents, children, or spouse may reject you - or worse, implicitly disapprove while claiming to maintain a loving bond. That means that every time you talk, there's another dagger through your heart - the feeling that you'll never again have their respect (if you ever did in the first place) or be a whole person in their eyes (if you ever were).It almost certainly means your community evaporates like a holographic illusion. You walk away, and it's like you left behind a burning village with only ghosts pacing the streets. Sometimes they haunt you - follow you into your new life, reminding you at … [Read more...]

A Woman's Place

 "Sunday Night" ~ an Australian news program's expose of Above Rubies and Quiverfull, features Colin & Nancy Campbell and includes an interview with Vyckie Garrison and her oldest daughter, Angel.Discuss on the NLQ forum!  Comments are also open below. … [Read more...]

Dan Webster's Religious “Family Values” – Disguised Misogyny: Former devotee speaks out

For Immediate Release: October 5, 2010.  For more information, contact Vyckie Garrison.Women are conditioned to be submissive to their husbands, discouraged from using birth control, and prohibited from working outside the home. Gothard-style worldview and lifestyle overburdens women, enslaves the daughters and destroys families.Vyckie Garrison was involved with Webster ally, Bill Gothard's teachings for 14 years; after following the fundamentalist teachings of the 'Quiverfull' movement, Garrison was subjected to mental abuse and told to ignore medical advice not to have more children because her job as a woman was to obey God by submitting to her husband - an act that allegedly afforded … [Read more...]

Listen to Vyckie Garrison on the Snap Out Of It! Show

Living a Godly Life but at a Very High Price - Escape from Spiritual Abuse  This morning (Sept. 28) at 10 a.m. central time, Vyckie will be interviewed Live on the Snap Out Of It! Radio Network with recording artist and inspirational speaker, DeDe Murcer Moffett. … [Read more...]

Listen to Vyckie Garrison on The Story with Dick Gordon

 The reality TV couple, the Duggars, stars of "19 Kids and Counting," just brought home their 19th child this summer. Allowing God to decide how many kids to have, the Duggars are like many conservative Christians who subscribe to the cross-denominational, patriarchal ideals of the Quiverfull movement. Vyckie Garrison knows about that life because she lived it. The divorced mother of seven left the movement and her husband two years ago. Vyckie says for her, the life of submission she was leading was life-threatening and mentally abusive. She has full custody of her kids and has started a blog, No Longer Quivering, as a source of support for women escaping and recovering from what Vyckie s … [Read more...]

Let's Talk About "Unconditional Love"

I'd like to have a discussion here on the topic of "Unconditional Love" ~ its meaning and implications with respect to controlling, unhealthy, abusive relationships.I am hoping to gather input from all perspectives:Believers ~ what is unconditional love? Please explain the concept and its specific application in cases in which someone is getting hurt ~ whether physically, emotionally or spiritually.Unbelievers ~ is "unconditional love" strictly a religious ideal?  Is there a secular version of unconditional love?  How does unconditional love play out in practicality?What about situations where the abuser is a close family member ~ say, a grandparent, parent, spouse, sibling or ch … [Read more...]

NLQ FAQ: Is No Longer Quivering an Atheist Website?

by VyckieI recently received an email from "Henrietta" who asked:If I choose to get involved here, contribute etc, am I part of a Christian but anti QFP group; or an anti Christian and esp anti QFP group?It is ironic that NLQ seems to be perceived quite differently depending on the perspective of the reader. We have several new readers who are commenting here on the blog ~ conservative, Quiverfull Christians who are convinced that NLQ is nothing but angry, pro-abortion, Feminazi Atheists.  On the other hand, MoJoey at "Deep Thoughts" recently promoted NLQ with the caveat: Now granted, No Longer Quivering is a Christian site and I don’t normally pimp out the opposition but the woman who … [Read more...]

Duggar-bashing

by VyckieThe comments on Hopewell's latest Duggar piece are particularly interesting to me ~ especially when compared to the reactions over at Free Jinger ~ Quiverfull of Snark, where the consensus seems to be that Hopewell graded the Duggars way too generously.What's important to notice about this article ~ and Nikita's comment really made this point ~ is that in delineating that very long, tedious 49-point list and giving the Duggar family a grade on how they measure up ~ it really highlights the tremendous amount of legalism, the impossibly high (and often warped) standards ~ and just how unrealistic this Quiverfull ideal is: Not even the Quiverfull Royalty ~ not even p … [Read more...]

49 Character Qualities of the Duggars: A Report Card

[Note: The point of this post is not about passing judgment on the Duggar family. The question is, does the lifestyle they endorse actually do what they say it will? Is it the perfect formula for a godly family? Or is what we’re seeing just a set of normal people striving within a very difficult way of living?This post examines the Duggars’ own lives within the paradigm they themselves endorse. Given that we only see what our televisions allow us to-- does what we can see, reflect the image held up to us? And if it does not, how can we be sure about what we can‘t see?No one expects the Duggars to be perfect. But that is not the question. The real question is: are they really showing us t … [Read more...]


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