It started with homeschooling

by ErikaMy sister and I in a photo booth. I think we were 12 & 13. She's older than I am.My childhood from the time I was born to the age of 14 was pretty much normal and mainstream. I grew up in a Christian home, going to church every Sunday, taking part in VBS in the summers, going to public school (though I went a few years to a Christian private school when I first started school), playing with the neighbor kids, watching cartoons in the morning....all the things that kids did in a normal family and neighborhood setting.I was born in Rhode Island at the end of 1976. I became a Christian at the age of 7. I remember sitting on the bed in my Oma and Opa's house (my grandparents … [Read more...]

Patriarchy Across Cultures: Living in the Material World

by TapatiKrishna and Arjuna on the battlefield, used on album by George HarrisonI can blame it all on George Harrison.  I and my friend Carolyn were teenagers of the early 1970s, devoted to the music of the Beatles and of George Harrison in particular. We were also searching for the meaning of life, like countless others before us. We combed the library for information on various religions and encountered books like A Soul’s Journey by Peter Richelieu (unfortunately out of print now). We learned about reincarnation, astral bodies, karma, and transmigration of the soul. This all made so much more sense to us when we thought about human suffering, far more sense than the mysterious “I … [Read more...]

Connecting The Dots: Patriarchy Across Cultures

by Tapati   Hare Krishna temple in St. Louis, 1975. Tapati is in the center front row in a blue print sari.When a friend referred me to the blog “No Longer Quivering,” she knew why I would resonate with the posts I found there. Like me, she had once belonged to the Hare Krishna Movement, though years after my own involvement. We immediately saw many parallels between the lives of Christian women following the Quiverfull teachings. Vyckie and Laura described their past lives in ways that sounded like many of the young Hare Krishna women of the seventies that I knew. I had the same “aha” moment as I’d had when I read Carolyn Jessop’s book Escape about the FLDS women in Colorado City, Ari … [Read more...]

Freedom From Patriarchy

by ErikaHere in the US, we celebrated our nation's independence and freedom this past Saturday, the 4th of July. This particular holiday always makes me think of my own Independence Day.We had a BBQ with family and friends this past Saturday and while we were sitting inside to stay out of the rain, I was telling my friends about the jumper that my sister had made for herself back when she was 18. I had recently posted the picture of our family on my Facebook account and one of my friends asked, "Does your sister really have a cow on her jumper?"Yes, she did.In fact, she had the whole farm SCENE. The field, the red barn, the fruit trees, the cows, etc. My mom, sisters and I all … [Read more...]

Santa vs. Satan

by LauraWhen I was growing up, my moms worked craft shows to support us kids. They often worked right through Christmas Eve and so we never celebrated Christmas actually on Dec. 25. We would usually have our Christmas celebration in the second week of January. That way my moms could take advantage of the awesome after Christmas sales available back then. It took the pressure off and I always felt like someone special when I told my friends that WE were celebrating Christmas on January 10th or what ever it was. The date was not important . The presents were! My moms always went all out. I remember going to bed and there would be nothing at all under the tree and then when I awoke...lo and … [Read more...]

Did I *really* trust Him?

by Vyckie I had lunch with Hazelle at school on her 13th birthday ~ this year was the first time that I didn't cry as I remembered the trauma of my 4th pregnancy and delivery ~ in fact, I hardly thought of it at all ~ so yeah, time does bring healing and I'm grateful for that.There's an interesting discussion going on over in the NLQ forums about quiverfull families who are "trusting the Lord" with their family planning and at the same time, accepting government assistance to support their children.themomma said: This is one of my biggest complaints against a quiver family I know.It is all "we are leaving it God" while they are using services. I think it is "selective faith" at … [Read more...]

There Is No "You" in Qivering: He Preferred Crest

by LauraI have seen comments here on the blog that say that Vyckie and I chose this lifestye. That it was a conscious decision on our parts to live this QF/P life. I can only speak for myself and I can attest that it was definitely NOT a conscious decision on my part. I took what was the “frog in the pot of hot water” path. It is said that if you put a frog into a pot of cool water he will be content to sit there enjoying his soak in the “tub”. Turn up some heat under the pot and the frog will not notice. He won't notice that the water has become warmer and warmer until the water is too hot for him to survive. By then it is too late. He is boiled.I came into the QF/P lifestyle in much t … [Read more...]

When am I supposed to sleep…?

 by LauraWhen my 11th baby was born, he had feeding issues. He just wasn't getting the hang of nursing and I think my “plumbing” was getting a bit worn out. After two weeks of trying and trying and him crying and crying, I took him to a Lactation Clinic an hour and a half away. The nurses and doctors were wonderful and remembered me from the last time I had a baby with these problems. They told me that I needed to use a breast pump every two hours all day and every 4 hours at night and keep track of how much milk I was making and feed every drop to my baby and supplement him with formula so he would gain weight.Now, being a QF mom, I felt that bottles and formula equaled failure. I mean, … [Read more...]

A voice from my past …

by LauraLaura & Richard, 1981In order to tell the next part of my story I have to go back a bit in time. It may not make sense to you at first but stay with me. It will. Back in the summer of 1980, I met a young Marine and fell in love. He was so handsome and strong and wonderful. He treated me like his princess and I adored him. We spent the summer riding around on his motorcycle, going to Disneyland and the beach. It was wonderful! But there was a problem... I lived 450 miles away. He lived in the same town as my dad and I could only see him when I went on visitation to my dad's place. But love knows no distance. We corresponded and talked on the phone and every time I went to … [Read more...]

Tom and Glenn and …

by LauraAbout this time I was talking to some Christian friends of mine about going to counseling. I guess I thought that counseling wasn't quite the failure that drugs were so I was willing to try it. Not to mention that I knew I needed to do something before I totally lost it. My friends told me about a counseling center near me that was run by the International Center for Biblical Counseling (ICBC). They were Christian-based, of course, and they had a ministry that included helping people who were being demonically oppressed or possessed.Now, whether or not a Christian can be bothered by demons was an issue that we had discussed at times with our former pastor and I really didn't … [Read more...]


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