Women, the Doormat of the Church

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by Bruce Gerencser cross posted from his blog The Life and Times of Bruce GerencserMany years ago, I was watching the Old Time Gospel Hour on TV.  At the time, the Old Time Gospel Hour was the flagship program of Thomas Road Baptist Church and Jerry Falwell.Falwell was preaching about women and the Equal Rights Amendment.I have never forgotten what he said: We don’t believe in equal rights for women. We believe in superior rights for women. We believe in putting women on a pedestal. … [Read more...]

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NLQ Question of the Week: Why Do Fundamentalists Obsess About Modesty?

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This is a new series we have started running on Thursdays. Examining some of the questions involving long held Quiverfull theology and life.First we have many different ladies and ministries calling modesty anything from floor length skirts to blending with the crowd in such a way that doesn't draw attention to yourself. Of course, in some Muslim countries modesty is defined by the burqa, but in fundamentalist Christianity modesty is a sliding scale, whatever your pastor decrees. Knee to collar bone covered with no short sleeves? Mennonite caped dresses disguising the shape of the breasts and bottom? Denim skirts and loose tees? … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Even Completely Covering Up Can Be Immodest?

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by Christy Peterson from A Lovely Calling - ModestyEditor's note: So now extremist Christianity and Quiverfull are seeking to move the goalposts yet again on modesty? It's not enough to cover up almost completely, you now cannot wear anything that makes you stand out or draws attention to you. But isn't that what many of the adherents to the Christian modesty people do, stand out from the crowd as oddly dressed? So confusing. … [Read more...]

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Created To Need A Help Meet: Part 6 How Do I Need Thee? (Michael Talks To The Ladies)

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by Aletha cross posted from her blog Yllom Mormonpgs 44-46 We're still on Chapter 4, where Michael tells men why they need women. Here is the link list of previous installments. So far, we've established that women need to be needed; it's the man's job to sanctify his wife; and it's the woman's job to be her husband's moral compass. More about that compass today. Text is in purple.I Need Her Morality and Conscience It is well known that the women are the moral anchors of any society. When the ladies become depraved, families perish and society disintegrates. Men are less introspective and better able to ignore their consciences than are women. Wives and mothers are created with a … [Read more...]

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Answering “Preparing To Be A Help Meet” – Competition and Guys

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Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical, rational and the best possible solution, in other words 18 … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Part 3 – Control Your Children But Not Too Much?

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by Michael Pearl from No Greater Joy - Cloistered Homeschool SyndromeEditor's note: Michael is claiming that he wasn't a big fan of the Patriarchal Movement when that's what his entire ministry is built around? Or is it because they aren't doing it the patented Michael Pearl way? As to the advice of allowing grown children autonomy - even a stopped clock is right twice a day. … [Read more...]

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Created To Need A Help Meet – Part 2 How Do I Need Thee? (More About Women’s Nature)

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by Aletha cross posted from her blog Yllom Mormonpages 35-38Last time, I started on Chapter 4, which begins a huge list of the reasons men need their wives. Sometimes the text makes good points, yet the theme of every section seems to be something along the lines of "your wife needs you to need her. Your wife's womanly nature (from God) makes her want to meet your (as a man) needs. Let her. If you don't let your wife meet your needs, bad things will happen to you both. Plus emotional imbalance for you wife." I'm not even kidding. Go read last section. I'll wait. Back? Alright. Let's begin. Text, as always, is in purple. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: The Two Hundred Year Plan To Keep Your Family Large And Poor?

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by Vaughn Ohlman of True Love Doesn't Wait -What's In Your 200 Year Plan?Editor's note: Don't know how many of you here have heard the '200 Year Plan' taught at your church but at one point in Evangelicalism it was a pretty popular idea. The one time I heard it preached from the pulpit I remember thinking that it seemed like the ultimate in control freak master planning. Out of Mr. Ohlman's writings about this two parts jumped out as awful. In his eyes this is all about making sure the children marry as soon as possible and breed the grandkids without one thought for how they are going to support all those grandkids. Very short-sided thinking. … [Read more...]

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Answering ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’ – Is There A Line Between Submitting And Being Yourself?

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Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical, rational and the best possible solution, in other words 18 … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Make Cookies & Don’t Stress Out Your Husband By Making Him Do Things

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by Todd & Jessica Smartt from Smartter Each Day - 10 Things A Man Needs To Be HappyEditor's note: On the surface this sounds sort of sweet and charming, but it's the essence of what a patriarchal marriage looks like. Man works and uses his free time to go fishing and gets enough alone time not to be stressed out by the kids while the little woman makes sure there are meals, cookies, a clean house and kids trained enough not to stress poor poor Daddy out. This is what Christian Complementarianism looks like. … [Read more...]

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