Quoting Quiverfull: Women Holding Responsible Positions Over A Man Is Sin?

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by John Piper as quoted from 'Ask Pastor John' from the website Housewife Theologian - John Piper's Advice For Women In The Work ForceEditor's note: So according to Piper if the influence of a woman on men is 'non-personal' and 'non-directive' and it's for the good of everyone then it's not wrong. But the second you enter the directive realm, like his example of a female drill sergeant, you're sinning. Another example of a evangelical cultural enforcer adding dos and don'ts to the Bible. At least we know he's not having a problem with womens voices on GPS under this mental/moral game of Twister. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Patriarchy Is Biblical – Get Over It?

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by Vaughn Ohlman from True Love Doesn't Rape - What is Patriarchy I: Defining Our TermEditor's note: So here's the end results of another long posting by Von where he twists things and cherry picks the Bible. Because the word Patriarch is mentioned 14 times in the New Testament that makes it a real thing according to him. Followed by lots of 'children must obey their fathers' doubling down. Plus I have to say I always find it amusing when Christians that rant about the evils of homosexuality and/or alcohol love the King James Bible. The ruler for which it is named did commission scholars to do the translation while he was drinking and running around with his gay lover. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Honoring Men By Submission?

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by unknown from The Sunshine Thiry Blog - What Would It Look Like For Christians To Honor Husbands And Fathers?Editor's note: Another of Biblical Gender Roles female submission enforcer friends that says what he wants to hear. The scary thing is that at his own site BGR seems to be hinting at moving in the direction of Christian Domestic Discipline aka spanking your wife. Also both he and this lady are pals of MRA promoting blogger Dalrock. BGR is moving closer to the realm of Men's Rights Activists and their harmful ideas of what constitutes a marriage - total slavery of the wife. … [Read more...]

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“Created To Need A Help Meet” – Part 11 How Do I Need Thee? (Treat Your Wife Like The Weaker Vessel She Is)

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by Aletha cross posted from her blog Yllom Mormon(I'm driving from Washington to Kansas the next few days...that's why all the posts are crammed in today) p 54-54 Text in purpleI hope y'all are ready for a whole lot of Bible. Because even though this section is 4 paragraphs long, it packs in a LOT of scripture. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Patriarchy Means Treating Your Wife Like Fine China?

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by Greg Gibson from John Piper's The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood - Building a Marriage Culture | Husbands Honor Your WivesEditor's note: I don't know about anyone else here but I have zero desire to be treated like fine china. Fine china stays in the china cabinet unused and completely out of the loop most of the time. It doesn't have free agency, it's protected in a stifling manner that doesn't allow for any life and it cannot move or be used unless the owner deems it to be. Too delicate to be of any practical use in the day to day. An object. … [Read more...]

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Created To Need A Help Meet: Part 6 How Do I Need Thee? (Michael Talks To The Ladies)

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by Aletha cross posted from her blog Yllom Mormonpgs 44-46 We're still on Chapter 4, where Michael tells men why they need women. Here is the link list of previous installments. So far, we've established that women need to be needed; it's the man's job to sanctify his wife; and it's the woman's job to be her husband's moral compass. More about that compass today. Text is in purple.I Need Her Morality and Conscience It is well known that the women are the moral anchors of any society. When the ladies become depraved, families perish and society disintegrates. Men are less introspective and better able to ignore their consciences than are women. Wives and mothers are created with a … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Part 3 – Control Your Children But Not Too Much?

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by Michael Pearl from No Greater Joy - Cloistered Homeschool SyndromeEditor's note: Michael is claiming that he wasn't a big fan of the Patriarchal Movement when that's what his entire ministry is built around? Or is it because they aren't doing it the patented Michael Pearl way? As to the advice of allowing grown children autonomy - even a stopped clock is right twice a day. … [Read more...]

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Created To Need A Help Meet – Part 2 How Do I Need Thee? (More About Women’s Nature)

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by Aletha cross posted from her blog Yllom Mormonpages 35-38Last time, I started on Chapter 4, which begins a huge list of the reasons men need their wives. Sometimes the text makes good points, yet the theme of every section seems to be something along the lines of "your wife needs you to need her. Your wife's womanly nature (from God) makes her want to meet your (as a man) needs. Let her. If you don't let your wife meet your needs, bad things will happen to you both. Plus emotional imbalance for you wife." I'm not even kidding. Go read last section. I'll wait. Back? Alright. Let's begin. Text, as always, is in purple. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: The Two Hundred Year Plan To Keep Your Family Large And Poor?

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by Vaughn Ohlman of True Love Doesn't Wait -What's In Your 200 Year Plan?Editor's note: Don't know how many of you here have heard the '200 Year Plan' taught at your church but at one point in Evangelicalism it was a pretty popular idea. The one time I heard it preached from the pulpit I remember thinking that it seemed like the ultimate in control freak master planning. Out of Mr. Ohlman's writings about this two parts jumped out as awful. In his eyes this is all about making sure the children marry as soon as possible and breed the grandkids without one thought for how they are going to support all those grandkids. Very short-sided thinking. … [Read more...]

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Answering ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’ – Is There A Line Between Submitting And Being Yourself?

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Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical, rational and the best possible solution, in other words 18 … [Read more...]

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