Quoting Quiverfull: Patriarchy Is Biblical – Get Over It?

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by Vaughn Ohlman from True Love Doesn't Rape - What is Patriarchy I: Defining Our TermEditor's note: So here's the end results of another long posting by Von where he twists things and cherry picks the Bible. Because the word Patriarch is mentioned 14 times in the New Testament that makes it a real thing according to him. Followed by lots of 'children must obey their fathers' doubling down. Plus I have to say I always find it amusing when Christians that rant about the evils of homosexuality and/or alcohol love the King James Bible. The ruler for which it is named did commission scholars to do the translation while he was drinking and running around with his gay lover. … [Read more...]

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“Created To Need A Help Meet” – Part 11 How Do I Need Thee? (Treat Your Wife Like The Weaker Vessel She Is)

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by Aletha cross posted from her blog Yllom Mormon(I'm driving from Washington to Kansas the next few days...that's why all the posts are crammed in today) p 54-54 Text in purpleI hope y'all are ready for a whole lot of Bible. Because even though this section is 4 paragraphs long, it packs in a LOT of scripture. … [Read more...]

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Created To Need A Help Meet: Part 6 How Do I Need Thee? (Michael Talks To The Ladies)

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by Aletha cross posted from her blog Yllom Mormonpgs 44-46 We're still on Chapter 4, where Michael tells men why they need women. Here is the link list of previous installments. So far, we've established that women need to be needed; it's the man's job to sanctify his wife; and it's the woman's job to be her husband's moral compass. More about that compass today. Text is in purple.I Need Her Morality and Conscience It is well known that the women are the moral anchors of any society. When the ladies become depraved, families perish and society disintegrates. Men are less introspective and better able to ignore their consciences than are women. Wives and mothers are created with a … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Part 3 – Control Your Children But Not Too Much?

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by Michael Pearl from No Greater Joy - Cloistered Homeschool SyndromeEditor's note: Michael is claiming that he wasn't a big fan of the Patriarchal Movement when that's what his entire ministry is built around? Or is it because they aren't doing it the patented Michael Pearl way? As to the advice of allowing grown children autonomy - even a stopped clock is right twice a day. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: The Two Hundred Year Plan To Keep Your Family Large And Poor?

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by Vaughn Ohlman of True Love Doesn't Wait -What's In Your 200 Year Plan?Editor's note: Don't know how many of you here have heard the '200 Year Plan' taught at your church but at one point in Evangelicalism it was a pretty popular idea. The one time I heard it preached from the pulpit I remember thinking that it seemed like the ultimate in control freak master planning. Out of Mr. Ohlman's writings about this two parts jumped out as awful. In his eyes this is all about making sure the children marry as soon as possible and breed the grandkids without one thought for how they are going to support all those grandkids. Very short-sided thinking. … [Read more...]

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Answering ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’ – Is There A Line Between Submitting And Being Yourself?

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Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical, rational and the best possible solution, in other words 18 … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Make Cookies & Don’t Stress Out Your Husband By Making Him Do Things

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by Todd & Jessica Smartt from Smartter Each Day - 10 Things A Man Needs To Be HappyEditor's note: On the surface this sounds sort of sweet and charming, but it's the essence of what a patriarchal marriage looks like. Man works and uses his free time to go fishing and gets enough alone time not to be stressed out by the kids while the little woman makes sure there are meals, cookies, a clean house and kids trained enough not to stress poor poor Daddy out. This is what Christian Complementarianism looks like. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: What it Means to Be Biblically Submissive?

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Found on Minthegap (Is This Modest.com Adam Gregorin) blog leading to Ken Ham's Answers In Genesis - A Girl Named RuthEditor's note: Ham complains that most Christian children's books depict the mother with the open Bible reading to the children. This is because even in those 'sold-out' Quiverfull Evangelical Fundamentalist extremist homes the fathers don't do reading to the children, or anything involving teaching or homeschooling. It's a realistic depiction. Perhaps you need to teach your wonderful Christian males that they need to parent too before blaming it on feminism or overbearing women. … [Read more...]

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A Close Look at the Complementarian Argument

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by Kristen Rosser cross posted from her blog Wordgazer's Words Complementarianism and the Local Church is an article by Jonathan Leeman on the 9 Marks website, which is a conservative evangelical site dedicated to "help[ing] pastors, future pastors, and church members see what a biblical church looks like, and to take practical steps for becoming one."  The site has published a series of articles on male headship, and the arguments are pretty much the same ones my various blog posts have rebutted though the last several years.  But this one, which seems to be an introduction to its male headship series, was brought to my attention on another blog, and I'd like to take a closer look at what i … [Read more...]

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Not Quoting Quiverfull: Narcissist Men With Patriarchal Tendencies?

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There is a study out of Ohio's Kent State University by Dr. Scott Keiller showing that narcissistic heterosexual men tend to take out their aggression almost exclusively on heterosexual women.From Science Daily: … [Read more...]

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