A Close Look at the Complementarian Argument

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by Kristen Rosser cross posted from her blog Wordgazer's Words Complementarianism and the Local Church is an article by Jonathan Leeman on the 9 Marks website, which is a conservative evangelical site dedicated to "help[ing] pastors, future pastors, and church members see what a biblical church looks like, and to take practical steps for becoming one."  The site has published a series of articles on male headship, and the arguments are pretty much the same ones my various blog posts have rebutted though the last several years.  But this one, which seems to be an introduction to its male headship series, was brought to my attention on another blog, and I'd like to take a closer look at what i … [Read more...]

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Not Quoting Quiverfull: Narcissist Men With Patriarchal Tendencies?

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There is a study out of Ohio's Kent State University by Dr. Scott Keiller showing that narcissistic heterosexual men tend to take out their aggression almost exclusively on heterosexual women.From Science Daily: … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Women Need Micro-Managing From Their Husbands?

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by Cane Caldo from Things that We have Heard and Known - Cold Service is the Revenge Dish of VanityEditor's note: Remember that disgraceful guy who had all the photos of scantly clad teenagers at his site Is This Modest? - Minthegap / Adam Gregorian? If you recall he had a pile of Mens Rights buddies we quoted, some of whom have done like Gregorian did to his almost porn Modesty site and pulled down their blogs after being confronted. Here's some of the most disgusting misogyny from a man in the church we've seen in a long time. He makes Michael Pearl seem gentle. Trigger warning if you go to his blog, this posting is all about denigrating a woman in distress who is trying to work … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Forced Obedience or Voluntary Obedience in Submission – Is There Much of a Difference?

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by Pastor Soni Japhet John from the comments on the Suko Family Blog - How To Make Your Wive Submit To Your AuthorityEditor's note: Originally I was going to quote from this blog posting that has been sweeping through the internet and going viral. But the comments are far most poisonous than the original article. If those inclined to practice submission did it as Mr. Suko did then it would be much less awful. It would be inching closer to egalitarian marriage. What is awful are the comments for the most part, particularly this quoted one, because it's ranty in that True Patriarch way. It may not be so much abusive in the language but in the way the pastor is expressing his views. Enjoy. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Part 1 – Marriage is the Best Context For Human Development?

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by Michael Pearl of No Greater Joy - Marriage is God's Finishing SchoolEditor's note: While I think it's a given that marriage does force you to mature and develop in ways you might not have as a single person it's unlikely that Michael Pearl and most everyone else have ideas even in the same wheelhouse about marriage. Your thoughts? … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Only Christian Men Are Caring Fathers?

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by Robert Murray M'Cheyne as quoted by Stephanus Blignaut at Go Tell My People - Governing Your FamilyEditor's note: Granted, this was written during M'Cheyne's life time, the early 1800s, but it seems to be that same train of thought that many in Evangelical Christianity and Quiverfull still cling to, that an 'unsaved' father and man has no care or love for their family, which is a complete lie. Religious thought that is a falsehood does no one any good.  … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Put Your Husband First or Divorce?

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by Katelyn Carmen of Family Share - 5 Ways You Are Unknowingly Destroying Your Husband & Killing Your MarriageSome of the advice in this article isn't bad, like living within your means or not expecting for your husband to know what you mean when you drop subtle hints, but this is right up there with the steaming load of crap Nancy Campbell and Debi Pearl peddle. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Secular Men Don’t Take Any Responsibility?

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by Kelly Crawford from Generation Cedar - Raising Boys Into Men: Tend The FieldKelly sincerely believes only Christian guys are 'Take Charge'. Too bad in reality it seems many 'Good Christian Men' are either bullies/tin plated dictators or apathetic blame shifters. There doesn't seem to be many guys between those two toxic polar opposites in the church.  Another false charge laid at the feet of feminism by Kelly. Just like women, men are all different and run the gamut of 'types' Saying that a religious dogma makes men superior to others without the same beliefs is short-sided, childish and insulting to all men. Talk about man hating. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: He is ‘The King’ and You MUST Serve Him in All Things?

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by Debi Pearl of No Greater Joy - A Wise Woman Builds Her HouseWhenever I read Debi's little pearls of wisdom like this I cannot help but imagine her shaking in rage while she repeats this crap to herself in a sort of self brain-washing ritual. … [Read more...]

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Tim Bayly Is Tardy To Our Hen Party!

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by Suzanne TitkemeyerEvangelical pastor/blogger Tim Bayly just discovered Vyckie Garrison's life story and *gasp* is busy clutching his pastoral pearls as he realizes that women are speaking out! Guessing sometimes information outside of the CPM bubble takes a while to trickle down past all those filters woven from old Bible pages.Women folks! They are speaking out 'online' and even worse, 'in real life', to the men folks! He can't understand how Vyckie could possibly have such a problem with God the Father and Christianity in general even after reading all the ways in which her own beliefs harmed her. It must be feminism according to him and his readers/commenters.He had this to … [Read more...]

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