Quoting Quiverfull: How Much More ‘Clear’ Does Doug Phillips Need to Be?

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by Doug Phillips of Vision Forum on Vision Forum Ministries website re his 'sin' that caused the closing of Vision Forum Ministries I would like to express my gratitude for the great kindness so many have shown to my family in the wake of my stepping down as president of Vision Forum Ministries. My family has been greatly encouraged by many loving notes we have received. With that in mind, I want to be so very clear about the rightness of this transition, and I want to clear up some matters which have been brought to my … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Forbidden Fruit

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by Bill Gothard of ATI from his site billgothard.com - Conquering Temptations: Looking at "Forbidden Fruit" "Forbidden fruit" appeals to the lusts of our flesh, the lusts of our eyes, or the pride of life. "All that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world" (1 John 2:16). … [Read more...]

Vision Forum Ministries Closing

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by Suzanne Calulu cross posted from her blog True Love Doesn't RapeToday it was announced on Vision Forum Ministries site that in light of the Doug Phillips scandal that the ministry would be locking the doors and shuttering the building. They are completely shutting down. Here's what they've posted on the Vision Forum Ministries site. … [Read more...]

How Doug Phillips Wreaked Havoc On My Family

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy Feminism and Homeschoolers AnonymousMy parents homeschooled me K-12, and during those years they fell under the influence of several Christian leaders who spread toxic dogma and find their following within the Christian homeschool movement. My parents never followed Gothard, but they did follow both Michael Pearl and Doug Phillips. I’ve … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Female Soldiers Forced Into Combat?

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Ladies Against Feminism posted this snippet of the original blog posting at Why I Am Not A Feminist by Judithann Campbell. Judithann Campbell is not Quiverfull or part of the Fundamentalist Evangelical crowd represented by people like the Botkins. Ladies Against Feminism used her writing without giving her credit or even looking to see if the rest of the article conforms with their beliefs. Perfect example of LAF cherry picking to support their issues. … [Read more...]

Christian Cliches: “Lean Not on Your Own Understanding”

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by Kristen Rosser cross posted from her blog Wordgazer's WordsWhen I was part of Maranatha Campus Ministries back in the 1980s, "Lean not on your own understanding" was a cliche they were particularly fond of.  I remember when they were teaching us that Genesis 1:28, where God told the first male and female to "have dominion. . . over every living thing that moves on the earth," was a divine mandate meaning that today Christians are to "have dominion" in society and government, to "take over" for Jesus and make Christian principles and morality the "law of the land."  I remember shaking my head in puzzlement.  That passage doesn't say anything about human beings ruling over other hum … [Read more...]

Phillips Social Circle Defend Him, Calling Those Who Disagree “Ungodly”

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by Lana Hope cross posted from her blog Wide Open GroundMy friend Heather at Becoming Worldy wrote a blog post that outlines “the path that Doug Phillips will try to take to ‘restoration’ and ‘forgiveness.’” She gives us 15 steps. 1.) Man gets caught with pants down2.) Man denies it or provides excuses and pretends like everything is fine3) Man is forced by elders/leaders/media/angry mob of former minions to fess up … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Exchanging Boxes?

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by Nancy Campbell of Above Rubies - Never Before and Never Again Everyone of your children are unique individuals. They have different gifts. They will learn differently. They are not meant to be put in a box!The government wants all the children in the state system to be put in a box. They want to brainwash with their humanist and progressive agenda so they will think like them. … [Read more...]

Is Clergy Sexual Infidelity Rare?

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by Bruce Gerencser cross posted from his blog The Way ForwardDoug Phillips, of Vision Forum/Vision Forum Ministries, recently confessed that he had an inappropriate sexual relationship with a woman who is not his wife. (see my previous post in this) Defenders of Phillips have taken to their blogs, websites, Twitter, and Facebook, to do damage control on the behalf of Phillips and the patriarchal movement. One such defender is Voddie Baucham, the African-American version of Doug Phillips, sans the scandal. Baucham is an Independent Baptist pastor.  (you can find Baucham’s website here) … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: The Wimpy Christian?

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by Colin Campbell from his blog Meat For Men “The wimpy Christian does not feel the convictions that motivate him to cry out to God. This sort of thing is completely foreign to his casual way of thinking. He likes to stay cool, calm and undisturbed. If he attended the prayer meetings, he might feel a little of God’s heart, and what would that do to his smooth, delicate constitution? It may make him feel a trifle uncomfortable about watching his next unclean movie!” … [Read more...]


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