Quoting Quiverfull: Patriarchy Means Treating Your Wife Like Fine China?

by Greg Gibson from John Piper's The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood - Building a Marriage Culture | Husbands Honor Your WivesEditor's note: I don't know about anyone else here but I have zero desire to be treated like fine china. Fine china stays in the china cabinet unused and completely out of the loop most of the time. It doesn't have free agency, it's protected in a stifling manner that doesn't allow for any life and it cannot move or be used unless the owner deems it to be. Too delicate to be of any practical use in the day to day. An object. … [Read more...]

Women, the Doormat of the Church

by Bruce Gerencser cross posted from his blog The Life and Times of Bruce GerencserMany years ago, I was watching the Old Time Gospel Hour on TV.  At the time, the Old Time Gospel Hour was the flagship program of Thomas Road Baptist Church and Jerry Falwell.Falwell was preaching about women and the Equal Rights Amendment.I have never forgotten what he said: We don’t believe in equal rights for women. We believe in superior rights for women. We believe in putting women on a pedestal. … [Read more...]

Answering “Preparing To Be A Help Meet” – Competition and Guys

Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical, rational and the best possible solution, in other words 18 … [Read more...]

Happy Mother’s Day – Trying Out Motherhood

So this is sort of off topic and not Quiverfull related at all but in honor of Mother's Day this seemed appropriate to share. The Try Guys of Buzzfeed.com are exploring motherhood as only guys can. Enjoy.Too bad that trying out motherhood like this isn't mandatory in high school because it might just make kids think twice about sex without birth control. One of my children did the Baby Think It Over for three days and nights and by the end was laying in her bed crying that she felt 'so trapped'. The experience taught her that she was not going to be ready for motherhood for quite some time. Not a bad thing to realize. … [Read more...]

Created To Need A Help Meet – Introductions, Acknowledgements and Michael, the Manly Man

by Aletha cross posted from her blog Yllom MormonEditor's note: Thank you Aletha for sharing this with us! Welcome~Ok. I'm just going to jump right in. "Created to Need a Help Meet" by Michael Pearl. The companion marriage-help book to his wife, Debi's, "Created to Be a Help Meet".  Passages from the book will be in purple, just to make things simpler. … [Read more...]

Mothers Day Open Thread: Do You Have Regrets or Wisdom to Impart?

by Suzanne TitkemeyerAnother Mother's Day is almost upon us again and I have questions of all the readers here that left the Evangelical Quiverfull Movement. Do you regret having or trying to have a large number of children? What would you do differently if you did it over? What did you learn? What would you like others to know?Mother's Day can be one of the hardest days of the year for those in or out of the church because of society's insistence that motherhood be presented in a sentimental perfect light, even if you aren't Quiverfull. It's hard to stuff down negative feelings and experiences on a Hallmark manufactured holiday and pretend to a happiness you may not feel. If you are … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: What it Means to Be Biblically Submissive?

Found on Minthegap (Is This Modest.com Adam Gregorin) blog leading to Ken Ham's Answers In Genesis - A Girl Named RuthEditor's note: Ham complains that most Christian children's books depict the mother with the open Bible reading to the children. This is because even in those 'sold-out' Quiverfull Evangelical Fundamentalist extremist homes the fathers don't do reading to the children, or anything involving teaching or homeschooling. It's a realistic depiction. Perhaps you need to teach your wonderful Christian males that they need to parent too before blaming it on feminism or overbearing women. … [Read more...]

A Close Look at the Complementarian Argument

by Kristen Rosser cross posted from her blog Wordgazer's Words Complementarianism and the Local Church is an article by Jonathan Leeman on the 9 Marks website, which is a conservative evangelical site dedicated to "help[ing] pastors, future pastors, and church members see what a biblical church looks like, and to take practical steps for becoming one."  The site has published a series of articles on male headship, and the arguments are pretty much the same ones my various blog posts have rebutted though the last several years.  But this one, which seems to be an introduction to its male headship series, was brought to my attention on another blog, and I'd like to take a closer look at what i … [Read more...]

You Will O-bey, Or You Will Be Exter-minated

by Living Liminal cross posted from her blog Living LiminalOk, so the truth was bound to come out sooner or later... I have to confess to being a bit of a geek... just a bit...And so inevitably I couldn't help but discern the similarity between the Daleks' mantra of 'obey or be exterminated' and the 'submit or be excommunicated' way of operating espoused by some christians. Christians and Daleks with so much in common! Who would have thought? See what I did there ;) … [Read more...]

Not Quoting Quiverfull: Narcissist Men With Patriarchal Tendencies?

There is a study out of Ohio's Kent State University by Dr. Scott Keiller showing that narcissistic heterosexual men tend to take out their aggression almost exclusively on heterosexual women.From Science Daily: … [Read more...]