Examining ATI Wisdom Booklets: Booklet 2 – Breathing and Speech

by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideAll images from When Cows and Kids Collide.This is part four in Mel's dissection of Bill Gothard's ATI Wisdom Booklets, the educational system used by TLCs Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar and many others in Quiverfull to educate their children. Mel exposes how fundamentally flawed much of the information is in the teaching materials. This post is 7 pages long.I get a strange feeling of unease every time I type "ATI" and "medical" in the same sentence.  I think this is because the medical section is quite strange.  This section, for example, manages to be very detailed without necessarily teaching information well. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Less is More With Young Kids?

by Zsuzsanna Anderson from Are They All Yours?!?? - Homeschool Tips: Young KidsEditor's note: While learning to sit still and concentrate is difficult for many young children is having the child do housework instead of sitting down to teach them to read really the best educational choice? Any teachers of first grade or kindergarten out there that can address the issues of not doing much schooling with the younger children? … [Read more...]

NLQ Question of the Week: What is so Threatening About Public School?

This is a new series we have started running on Thursdays. Examining some of the questions involving long held Quiverfull theology and life. … [Read more...]

Response to ‘Karen’ from No Greater Joy Magazine

by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideNo Greater Joy published a piece on common misperceptions by homeschool parents about college entry.  The information presented in the article is true, but misleading.  For the blog post to be accurate, the author needs to present what the prospective college student is missing by not having certain qualifications that the average public, private, or parochial school graduate would have. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: College Degrees Are a Waste of Money?

by Marc Cohen from No Greater Joy Magazine - From MarcEditor's note: This new issue of No Greater Joy magazine has four articles written by homeschoolers singing the praises of homeschooling while claiming that the lack of college degree hasn't harmed them in the slightest in the job market. While I cannot speak to some of the areas of the career paths most of them have taken I have to say this one particular one, a pilot with the US Army is at best highly exaggerated! A position as a pilot is one of the most coveted and competitive in the entire military and almost always requires the rank of officer AND a college degree. What's likely true is that the author is a Warrant Officer and he … [Read more...]

Living Without the Metanarrative

by Lana Hope cross posted from her blog Wide Open GroundWhen I left evangelicalism, I got depressed. It was a living nightmare.After I wrote my post on how the Duggars are not crazy, it hit me head on that I actually left a part of me that was extremely meaningful. Also, the homeschool positive series on Homeschoolers Anonymous made me a bit homesick.That may come as a shock because I can’t look back and say, “oh, well doctrine of hell is meaningful.” or “save the kiss lessons helped me in relationships.” “Or I learned a lot of social skills as a kid.” rrrrr no. definitely no.But, but, there was a heroic purpose in fundamentalism. … [Read more...]

Mythical Creation Science: Part 2 Doesn’t Carbon-14 Disprove The Bible?

by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows & Kids Collide(You can read Part 1 here)In the previous post in this series, I gave a lengthy, but hopefully accessible overview of how radioactive dating work using carbon-14 dating (also referred to as radiocarbon dating).At the end, I pointed out two scientific and mathematic points that YEC supporters neglect to bring up: 1) In YEC, the earth is 6,000 years old.  This means that all radiocarbon dating should give us an age of 1.04 half-lives or less.  (Because I'm sporting, I'll spot them 1,100 years and extend the half-life limit to 1.25 half-lives or 7,143 years and 9 months.) … [Read more...]

Mythical Creation Science: Part 1 – Doesn’t Carbon-14 Dating Disprove The Bible?

by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids Collide(all images in this posting belong to When Cows and Kids Collide)Welcome back to the crazy world of young-Earth creationism.Today, we cover chapter 7 of The New Answers Book One by Ken Ham.  This chapter tries to disprove carbon-14 dating in specific and radioactive dating in general.  The author of this chapter - Mike Riddle - and I agree on one thing: a basic overview or review of atomic structure is needed.Let's start at the outside of a carbon atom.  As we approach the atom, will first enter the outer shell of electrons.  In carbon, the outer shell has four electrons.  In the most recent unde … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Public School is Creating Indoctrinated Herd Mentality?

Ray E. Moore of Exodus Mandate as quoted by Raw Story - Christians Urge Parents to Save Their Kids From Indoctrination With an Exodus From Public SchoolsEditor's note: I don't think that our government is organized enough to have an actual agenda to turn all American children into an unquestioning herd of robots like Moore is claiming in the first part of his piece. While Common Core may not be the best thing for education, it remains to be seen, it's not trying to indoctrinate Christian kids to leave the church. Part martyrbating and part fear mongering. Every parent should be free to decide what type of education they want for their children and what will be best suited for each … [Read more...]

Mythical Science Creation: What About “Living Fossils”?

by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideThis chapter of The New Answers Book 4 (TNA4) edited by Ken Ham is one of the better written chapters in the whole series.  Written by Dr. John Whitmore, the chapter is a rare example of YEC literature that is readable by a scientist.Some benefits: … [Read more...]