Good Intentions Do NOT Success Make

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by Joe Sands cross posted from his blog Incongruous CircumspectionVaughn Ohlman, the patriarch of the Ohlman family - literally, loves to tell the world how we have it all wrong.  How marriage in the hands of "young people" is the reason why marriage doesn't work.  That, if only we followed the ancient Jewish story of ole' Abe and his son, Isaac, all marriages would either be brilliantly perfect, or mostly work. … [Read more...]

Why Would Any Woman Want to be an Evangelical Christian?

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by Bruce Gerencser cross posted from his blog The Way ForwardWhy would any woman want to be a Christian? If the Bible is the Word of God, inspired by God, and every word is true, why would any modern, thinking woman ever darken the door of an Evangelical church?Over the past hundred years women have continued to gain rights and privileges kept from them by men, law, and social propriety. The right to vote. Equal pay for equal work. The right to use birth control. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Ready For Courtship?

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by Michelle Duggar during TLC's "19 Kids & Counting" & at ParentablesQuestion from a "19 Kids and Counting" fan on Facebook: How do you decide when one of the children is ready for courtship? In my home, we like to think very carefully about courtship and getting to know potential husbands and wives. Why would you consider really getting to know someone closely if you didn’t think that there would be a potential for marriage? A person really needs to ask themselves, are they at the point in their life where they are ready for marriage? If they are, they need to be careful in how they handle this whole idea of getting to know someone because the emotions and the hormones that are … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Two Hours?

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by Vaughn Ohlman from the blog True Love Doesn't Wait - Two Hours My interlocutors on ‘Quoting Quiverful’ have been having a field day with Joshua and Laura’s betrothal. Mostly at my expense. I think they feel more sorry than anything for the young couple. Funny how Joshua and Laura don’t feel sorry for themselves. But, that aside, there is something they don’t understand (OK, there’s a lot of things they don’t understand, but one can only focus on one thing at a time) and I thought I would address it. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: A Girl’s “List”?

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Debi Pearl of No Greater Joy in a video about preparing for marriage - A Girl's List - Preparing To Be A Helpmeet. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: What is ‘Courting’?

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The news came out yesterday that the third Duggar daughter, Jessa, was in courtship with a young man from church. Here's Ma and Pa Duggar's explanation of what Courtship is.by Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar from People Magazine and ABC News. Jim Bob explains: "Courting is getting to know each other in a group setting, both families spending time together and the couple setting goals together to determine if they are meant to marry. With dating, a couple will often pair off alone and that sometimes leads to a more physical relationship." … [Read more...]

The Intellectual Honesty of Betrothal

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by The GraduateThe Intellectual Honesty of BetrothalRecently, a lot of news has been made about the betrothal announcement between Joshua Ohlman and Laura Camp, who became “betrothed” or engaged at their parents’ wishes after two hours of knowing each other.   Vaughn Ohlman runs “True Love Doesn’t Wait,” a website dedicated to advocating early marriage with no involvement on the part of those actually to be married, save signing rather long “marriage” contracts.If there is one thing I must grant to Vaughn, it’s this:  He at least accepts the logical conclusions of his beliefs, whereas Vision Forum, ATI, and others, try to soften the inevitable conclusions of where their worldvie … [Read more...]

CTBHHM: In Which Debi Can’t Read Genesis

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy FeminismCreated To Be His Help Meet, pp. 118Debi starts this next section with a quick overview of what is required of a help meet: God tells us that we are to be help meets: We are to submit, obey, and even … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Why is it Always About Sex?

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by Vaughn Ohlman from True Love Doesn't Wait - If Courtship Were HonestThe other day I was speaking to a courtship advocate and he called my definition of marriage ‘shortsighted’. What was my definition? Well, it was just a partial definition but it was ‘a lifelong sexual relationship’, basically. My interlocutor didn’t like that, since he was trying to say that, in a courtship done well, there was no possibility for the young man to ‘lust’ after the woman he was courting. That he could continue to treat her as a ‘sister’ and denied they had a ‘quasi-covenant’. … [Read more...]

Seven Tips For Keeping Your Man

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These 'tips' are out of relationship books from the 1950s. Reading through them you can see that the 'advice' sounds very much like the writings of certain Quiverfull proponents and their words on how to treat your husband. Do we really want to go back sixty years? Cross posting this from the  Mental Floss site.Woman, you have no idea how lucky you are to have landed a man. But as the literature of the mid-century’s greatest matrimonial minds tells us, he’s one wrinkled shirt away from leaving you. Eyes open and mouth shut ladies. It’s about to get real. … [Read more...]


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