Quoting Quiverfull: Did The Duggar Modesty-Scale Change?

Old school Duggars with no makeup and lots of cloth on.

If memory serves me correctly in the early days of the Duggar family television specials makeup was distinctly frowned up, but if the US Weekly article is anything to go by that has changed as well as many other things. Remember when Michelle and all the girls wore those loose sack-like jumpers with huge 'countenance-enhancing' collars? But then again, many Evangelical women I knew (including myself) once dressed like that. It was the uniform of the Good Christian Woman(tm) at one time.Below is a list of Duggar rules on dress from US Weekly Magazine Issue 1025 October 6, 2014 – The Duggars Rules of Romance … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Never Say No?

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Another interesting piece from The Joy Filled Wife over at Lori Alexander's blog Always Learning - Never Defrauding Him SexuallyCurious how this dovetails with the internet pornography addiction and the emotional abuse her husband The Joy Filled Wife experienced - See her earlier posting about her husband's addiction and abuse. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Modesty Was ‘God’s Idea’?

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by Tony Reinke in John Piper's blog Desiring God - Is Feminine Modesty About Sex?Men and women serve each other here. A godly Christian man refuses to treat women as objects of lust, humanizes them, and shows respect to his sisters in Christ as fellow heirs (Romans 8:17). A Christian woman, modestly dressed, serves her brothers in Christ, honors her husband (1 Peter 3:1–6), and removes an unnecessary obstruction from her testimony of personal godliness in society and the church (1 Timothy 2:8–15). Whether or not men are also called to a standard of modesty in fashion is a relatively new conversation in the church, and one we need to think through together in the future. But what we do kn … [Read more...]

Christian Reconstruction, ATI, Abuse and Submission: Modesty and Lust Part 6

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by SJ Reidhead cross posted from her blog The Pink FlamingoNOTE:  For more information on fashion during the Biblical era, The Far Right’s Manly, Sexy Jesus.  For a history of the period, in perspective:  Part I: Jerry Boykin’s Homo-Erotic Tribute to Manly Men also has a brief fashion history of the Jewish people.   Part II: Jerry Boykin’s Homo-Erotic Tribute to Manly Men contains a short history of bathing and cleanliness of the ancient Hebrews. Part III: Jerry Boykin’s Homo-Erotic Tribute to Manly Men is about soap, water, deodorant, and the basics of the ancient bath in relationship to the Judeans during the time of Christ. … [Read more...]

Not Quoting Quiverfull: Protecting Sons?

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Blogger Bunker Down has written an excellent rant about modesty - How the modesty police are hurting my son If you want your daughter (and hopefully son) to dress modestly because you want them to value their intrinsic self over their outer self?  Fabulous.  If you want your daughter (and hopefully son) to dress modestly to create healthy attitudes toward sexuality?  Great.  If you want your daughter (and hopefully son) to dress modestly to glorify the Creator of all things?  Boo-ya.  If you want your daughter (and hopefully son) to dress modestly because it is a long standing tradition of your church/synagogue/people/culture/or group?  Awesome possum. … [Read more...]

Christian Reconstruction, ATI, Abuse and Submission: Modesty and Lust Part 3

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by SJ Reidhead cross posted from her blog The Pink FlamingoSo-called ‘Christian’ Modesty is a strange critter, at best.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with any group implementing a dress code. Feeling like a rank hypocrite and jerk, where I was once dead set against school uniforms (when I was in school) I now think they are the only answer to any number of problems schools and students face.  If a church or sect, or cult wants to have their plain dress, head pieces, or sailor suits of a Hubbard rear admiral or something, that’s fine.  It is still a somewhat free country where we should be somewhat free to practice what ever form or religion, or no religion, as long as we don’t harm o … [Read more...]

Christian Reconstruction, ATI, Abuse and Submission: Modesty and Lust Part 2

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by SJ Reidhead cross posted from her blog The Pink FlamingoWhat does Randy the guinea pig have in common with the men of ATI, patriarchy, and Christian Reconstruction?Thanks to No Longer Quivering, the pieces of what modesty is doing to the culture in general, and the perversions of Bill Gothard are finally fitting into the Christian Reconstruction puzzle. Supposedly the piece is a letter from a father to his daughters. It is sick, disgusting, and basically incestuous. No NORMAL father would even begin to discuss this with his daughters. … [Read more...]

Christian Reconstruction, ATI, Abuse & Submission – Modesty & Lust: Part 1

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by SJ Reidhead cross posted from her blog The Pink Flamingo“…A large majority of women may very well stand before God one day with a sea of men around her whom she caused to stumble by modeling her body in a sexy form in front of them….” Stephanus BlignautRemember the very first episode of WKRP in Cincinnati? Dr. Johnny Fever had just been hired, after wondering up and down the dial.  He had lost his big LA DJ job after saying the forbidden word: booger!  Well, that’s how I feel with this post. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: If You’re Living and Breathing You’re Making Some Man Stumble?

Sin! She's showing her ANKLES!

by unknown from Go Tell My People - A Letter to my Daughter: Aroused by the Skin of my Wife The more “right” your figure is, the more careful you have to be. And you are a poor judge as to what is “right”. Those breasts or those hips you think are “too big” or “gross”, and positively hate, are the very things that will turn on a man. And again, you are a poor judge to determine how big is too big. That is because there is virtually no female set of hips, ample as they may be, that will not cause a man’s heart to pitter-patter, especially when draped over with a soft clingy fabric. And how beautiful, if that is the man’s wife. But what if she isn’t? She becomes a snare and a fiery dart in the … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Fashion Leads to Lust?

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by Stephanus Blignaut from Go Tell My People - Modesty: Discouraging Lust and Encouraging Godliness Women are so easily caught up in “what everyone is doing” or what is available in the shops and what is promoted in magazines and TV. They don’t think about how their body is portrayed and what it causes in men – the stumbling block it becomes for men. Women condemn lust in a man when they see it but somehow they don’t make the connection between the condemnable lust and their own clothes that they are wearing. Not realizing this makes them stand guilty before God as a stumbling stone because of the lust they caused. … [Read more...]


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