Quoting Quiverfull: Two Hours?

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by Vaughn Ohlman from the blog True Love Doesn't Wait - Two Hours My interlocutors on ‘Quoting Quiverful’ have been having a field day with Joshua and Laura’s betrothal. Mostly at my expense. I think they feel more sorry than anything for the young couple. Funny how Joshua and Laura don’t feel sorry for themselves. But, that aside, there is something they don’t understand (OK, there’s a lot of things they don’t understand, but one can only focus on one thing at a time) and I thought I would address it. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: A Girl’s “List”?

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Debi Pearl of No Greater Joy in a video about preparing for marriage - A Girl's List - Preparing To Be A Helpmeet. … [Read more...]

The Intellectual Honesty of Betrothal

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by The GraduateThe Intellectual Honesty of BetrothalRecently, a lot of news has been made about the betrothal announcement between Joshua Ohlman and Laura Camp, who became “betrothed” or engaged at their parents’ wishes after two hours of knowing each other.   Vaughn Ohlman runs “True Love Doesn’t Wait,” a website dedicated to advocating early marriage with no involvement on the part of those actually to be married, save signing rather long “marriage” contracts.If there is one thing I must grant to Vaughn, it’s this:  He at least accepts the logical conclusions of his beliefs, whereas Vision Forum, ATI, and others, try to soften the inevitable conclusions of where their worldvie … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Why is it Always About Sex?

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by Vaughn Ohlman from True Love Doesn't Wait - If Courtship Were HonestThe other day I was speaking to a courtship advocate and he called my definition of marriage ‘shortsighted’. What was my definition? Well, it was just a partial definition but it was ‘a lifelong sexual relationship’, basically. My interlocutor didn’t like that, since he was trying to say that, in a courtship done well, there was no possibility for the young man to ‘lust’ after the woman he was courting. That he could continue to treat her as a ‘sister’ and denied they had a ‘quasi-covenant’. … [Read more...]

Why Betrothal Isn’t ‘The Answer’

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by Calulu cross posted from her blog True Love Doesn't RapeLast week brought the news that Vaughn Ohlman of True Love Doesn't Wait betrothed his son Joshua to a young lady up in Michigan named Laura Camp. I wish both of them well, they look like good well-scrubbed Fundie Christians. They're going to need all the luck and good wishes they can garner considering the explanation of betrothal Josh's dad gave in the wake of the announcement.Marriage isn't easy under the best of circumstances. It's a struggle sometimes to create a union where each is valued for who they are and both partners fit together in complimentary ways. Their type of betrothal sets up a pretty high potential for … [Read more...]

Sunday Shout Out: How Quick is Too Quick?

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 One of our readers on Facebook brought out a good question. She wanted to know what everyone thought about the fact that Joshua Ohlman and Laura Camp only knew each other a grand total of two hours before the betrothal was signed.Is it better to take more time than a few hours to decide if this is the person you are willing to spend the rest of your life with?You can sound off below in the comments or if you wish to write a longer piece for publication on this subject you can drop me a line at CaluluNLQ(at)gmail(dot)com  Results published next Sunday! … [Read more...]

Damaged Goods

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 by Calulu cross posted from her blog True Love Doesn't RapeTrue Love Doesn't Wait author Von Ohlman has been taking on the writings of one Michael Pearl, author of "To Train Up A Child" and founder of No Greater Joy Ministry.You remember To "Train Up A Child" don't you? That child training book that has been blamed for the beating and starvation death of adoptive child Hana Grace Williams and the deaths of a few other children?  The trial of Hana's adoptive parents started last week. They'd been charged with murder, as they well should be. Michael Pearl and his cruel book also hold some culpability in my mind. But back to the subject. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: The Groom’s View

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by Joshua Ohlman at his father Vaughn Ohlman's site True Love Doesn't Wait - Betrothal Announcement Here is the announcement  that Joshua sent to his home church in Lubbock:Proverbs 18:22 “Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.”I would like to praise God for making me a recipient of the blessings found in the verse above. A week ago Friday I had the incredible blessing of flying to Michigan and meeting and betrothing to myself a wonderful woman who had been known as Laura Camp, and who we now call Laura Ohlman (betrothed). … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Teen Pregnancy?

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by Vaughn Ohlman from True Love Doesn't Wait - Teen Pregnancy We had great news from one of our friends the other day: one of their teenagers was pregnant!(Yeah, read that again. I actually said it. No, I wasn’t kidding. Good news: teen… pregnant.)It used to be that a pregnant teen was a cause for congratulations. The whole church would gather around her and congratulate her. Oh, wait, I left something out. They would gather around her… and her husband. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: What is Betrothal?

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by Vaughn Ohlman from True Love Doesn't Wait - What is Betrothal?(Trigger warning for those recovering from legalism and extreme control by others! You've been warned.) Hosea 2:19-20 And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies. I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD. … [Read more...]


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