Quoting Quiverfull: Politically Correct?

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In which Vaughn Ohlman of True Love Doesn't Wait writes a Biblical parody.. The following story has been updated to meet the prejudices of today’s readers…And Abraham was old, and well stricken in age… … [Read more...]

Good Intentions Do NOT Success Make

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by Joe Sands cross posted from his blog Incongruous CircumspectionVaughn Ohlman, the patriarch of the Ohlman family - literally, loves to tell the world how we have it all wrong.  How marriage in the hands of "young people" is the reason why marriage doesn't work.  That, if only we followed the ancient Jewish story of ole' Abe and his son, Isaac, all marriages would either be brilliantly perfect, or mostly work. … [Read more...]

Saturday Links: Jessa Duggar – Bloggers Sound Off

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This week the thing most talked about in many of the blogs I encountered was reactions to the news that JimBob Duggar finally approved a young man to court his daughters. So here's a list of  some of our Spiritual Abuse Survivor Blogs Network bloggers and their thoughts on the news.Makes me sad for the kids how the Duggars make "Announcements" in the media about things that would normally be considered private information in most families, not an opportunities to grab the attention of the media. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Two Hours?

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by Vaughn Ohlman from the blog True Love Doesn't Wait - Two Hours My interlocutors on ‘Quoting Quiverful’ have been having a field day with Joshua and Laura’s betrothal. Mostly at my expense. I think they feel more sorry than anything for the young couple. Funny how Joshua and Laura don’t feel sorry for themselves. But, that aside, there is something they don’t understand (OK, there’s a lot of things they don’t understand, but one can only focus on one thing at a time) and I thought I would address it. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: A Girl’s “List”?

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Debi Pearl of No Greater Joy in a video about preparing for marriage - A Girl's List - Preparing To Be A Helpmeet. … [Read more...]

The Intellectual Honesty of Betrothal

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by The GraduateThe Intellectual Honesty of BetrothalRecently, a lot of news has been made about the betrothal announcement between Joshua Ohlman and Laura Camp, who became “betrothed” or engaged at their parents’ wishes after two hours of knowing each other.   Vaughn Ohlman runs “True Love Doesn’t Wait,” a website dedicated to advocating early marriage with no involvement on the part of those actually to be married, save signing rather long “marriage” contracts.If there is one thing I must grant to Vaughn, it’s this:  He at least accepts the logical conclusions of his beliefs, whereas Vision Forum, ATI, and others, try to soften the inevitable conclusions of where their worldvie … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Why is it Always About Sex?

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by Vaughn Ohlman from True Love Doesn't Wait - If Courtship Were HonestThe other day I was speaking to a courtship advocate and he called my definition of marriage ‘shortsighted’. What was my definition? Well, it was just a partial definition but it was ‘a lifelong sexual relationship’, basically. My interlocutor didn’t like that, since he was trying to say that, in a courtship done well, there was no possibility for the young man to ‘lust’ after the woman he was courting. That he could continue to treat her as a ‘sister’ and denied they had a ‘quasi-covenant’. … [Read more...]

Why Betrothal Isn’t ‘The Answer’

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by Calulu cross posted from her blog True Love Doesn't RapeLast week brought the news that Vaughn Ohlman of True Love Doesn't Wait betrothed his son Joshua to a young lady up in Michigan named Laura Camp. I wish both of them well, they look like good well-scrubbed Fundie Christians. They're going to need all the luck and good wishes they can garner considering the explanation of betrothal Josh's dad gave in the wake of the announcement.Marriage isn't easy under the best of circumstances. It's a struggle sometimes to create a union where each is valued for who they are and both partners fit together in complimentary ways. Their type of betrothal sets up a pretty high potential for … [Read more...]

Sunday Shout Out: How Quick is Too Quick?

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 One of our readers on Facebook brought out a good question. She wanted to know what everyone thought about the fact that Joshua Ohlman and Laura Camp only knew each other a grand total of two hours before the betrothal was signed.Is it better to take more time than a few hours to decide if this is the person you are willing to spend the rest of your life with?You can sound off below in the comments or if you wish to write a longer piece for publication on this subject you can drop me a line at CaluluNLQ(at)gmail(dot)com  Results published next Sunday! … [Read more...]

Damaged Goods

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 by Calulu cross posted from her blog True Love Doesn't RapeTrue Love Doesn't Wait author Von Ohlman has been taking on the writings of one Michael Pearl, author of "To Train Up A Child" and founder of No Greater Joy Ministry.You remember To "Train Up A Child" don't you? That child training book that has been blamed for the beating and starvation death of adoptive child Hana Grace Williams and the deaths of a few other children?  The trial of Hana's adoptive parents started last week. They'd been charged with murder, as they well should be. Michael Pearl and his cruel book also hold some culpability in my mind. But back to the subject. … [Read more...]


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