Not Quoting Quiverfull: Protecting Sons?

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Blogger Bunker Down has written an excellent rant about modesty - How the modesty police are hurting my son If you want your daughter (and hopefully son) to dress modestly because you want them to value their intrinsic self over their outer self?  Fabulous.  If you want your daughter (and hopefully son) to dress modestly to create healthy attitudes toward sexuality?  Great.  If you want your daughter (and hopefully son) to dress modestly to glorify the Creator of all things?  Boo-ya.  If you want your daughter (and hopefully son) to dress modestly because it is a long standing tradition of your church/synagogue/people/culture/or group?  Awesome possum. … [Read more...]

The Female Body, a Source of Contamination

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love, Joy, FeminismI recently came upon a blog post titled “How the Modesty Police Are Hurting My Son,” in which blogger Ami writes about trying to teach her son that he is responsible for his own actions even as those around her tell him that girls are responsible for covering up so as to “protect” him. As I looked through the mostly positive comments on her post, I was struck by this one: I think it’s great that you teach your child all these things—and I think it’s great that parents teach their children modesty. And sometimes it is to protect boys—they can’t un-see a girl’s body once it’s been seen barely clad. Many parents teach their childre … [Read more...]

Preparing to be a Help Meet: Billy’s Courtship

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by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideYou may wonder why I didn't title the previous post and this one "Lydia and Billy's Courtship: Part # "  I didn't because the two narratives feel like they were written about two different courtships rather than one event involving two people.Billy's description of courting Lydia is harder to read; not because of Billy or any of his actions, but because his interview is interrupted by comments from the editors - All. The. Time.All emphasis is from the original."Q: What attracted you to Lydia? A: When I first met Lydia I wasn't what you would call really attracted, nor was I ready for marriage. (...) Our initial … [Read more...]

Christian Reconstruction, ATI, Abuse and Submission: Modesty and Lust Part 3

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by SJ Reidhead cross posted from her blog The Pink FlamingoSo-called ‘Christian’ Modesty is a strange critter, at best.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with any group implementing a dress code. Feeling like a rank hypocrite and jerk, where I was once dead set against school uniforms (when I was in school) I now think they are the only answer to any number of problems schools and students face.  If a church or sect, or cult wants to have their plain dress, head pieces, or sailor suits of a Hubbard rear admiral or something, that’s fine.  It is still a somewhat free country where we should be somewhat free to practice what ever form or religion, or no religion, as long as we don’t harm o … [Read more...]

Preparing To Be A Help Meet: Lydia’s Courtship

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by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideChapter Two begins with this title page: Discovering God's Will Moral to the Story: God often leads us down his path through the counsel of those who are wiser.I agree with wholeheartedly with the moral.  I have been so grateful for excellent advice given lovingly by my parents, siblings, my in-laws, my teachers, professors, people I've worked with and random strangers to name a few. … [Read more...]

Christian Reconstruction, ATI, Abuse and Submission: Modesty and Lust Part 2

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by SJ Reidhead cross posted from her blog The Pink FlamingoWhat does Randy the guinea pig have in common with the men of ATI, patriarchy, and Christian Reconstruction?Thanks to No Longer Quivering, the pieces of what modesty is doing to the culture in general, and the perversions of Bill Gothard are finally fitting into the Christian Reconstruction puzzle. Supposedly the piece is a letter from a father to his daughters. It is sick, disgusting, and basically incestuous. No NORMAL father would even begin to discuss this with his daughters. … [Read more...]

Preparing To Be A Help Mate: God Needs Our Prayers – Part 2

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by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideFor this next paragraph, find a place where you can read aloud to a friend with a good sense of humor.  Let each sentence build a sense of increasing desperation and importance.  Whoever bursts out laughing last wins.God Designed His Will To Come About Through PRAYER Do you pray for those who bear responsibility for your well-being?  Your father will need wisdom to know how to deal with the young man who comes to ask for your hand in marriage. Your pastor might know a young man who would be a good mate for you.  Why would your pastor think to bring this young man to your father's attention?  Have you prayed for your pastor … [Read more...]

Christian Reconstruction, ATI, Abuse & Submission – Modesty & Lust: Part 1

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by SJ Reidhead cross posted from her blog The Pink Flamingo“…A large majority of women may very well stand before God one day with a sea of men around her whom she caused to stumble by modeling her body in a sexy form in front of them….” Stephanus BlignautRemember the very first episode of WKRP in Cincinnati? Dr. Johnny Fever had just been hired, after wondering up and down the dial.  He had lost his big LA DJ job after saying the forbidden word: booger!  Well, that’s how I feel with this post. … [Read more...]

News: Evangelical Christians Are Cheating?

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The site frequented by people who want to cheat on their spouses, Ashley Madison, has conducted a survey asking their users to identify which religion they are. The results were surprising.Of the people who agreed to take the survey it looks like Evangelical Christians are the ones seeking to break the 7th Commandment in Exodus 20. Surprising information seeing as they are the very ones making all the fuss about modesty, no sex outside of marriage, no sex before marriage. Guess it's another case of 'Do as I say, not as I do.' … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: If You’re Living and Breathing You’re Making Some Man Stumble?

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by unknown from Go Tell My People - A Letter to my Daughter: Aroused by the Skin of my Wife The more “right” your figure is, the more careful you have to be. And you are a poor judge as to what is “right”. Those breasts or those hips you think are “too big” or “gross”, and positively hate, are the very things that will turn on a man. And again, you are a poor judge to determine how big is too big. That is because there is virtually no female set of hips, ample as they may be, that will not cause a man’s heart to pitter-patter, especially when draped over with a soft clingy fabric. And how beautiful, if that is the man’s wife. But what if she isn’t? She becomes a snare and a fiery dart in the … [Read more...]


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