Quoting Quiverfull: Fashion Leads to Lust?

by Stephanus Blignaut from Go Tell My People - Modesty: Discouraging Lust and Encouraging Godliness Women are so easily caught up in “what everyone is doing” or what is available in the shops and what is promoted in magazines and TV. They don’t think about how their body is portrayed and what it causes in men – the stumbling block it becomes for men. Women condemn lust in a man when they see it but somehow they don’t make the connection between the condemnable lust and their own clothes that they are wearing. Not realizing this makes them stand guilty before God as a stumbling stone because of the lust they caused. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Mary Pride Marginalized by Patriarchy?

by Karen Campbell from her blog That MomMary Pride was one of the first leaders in the modern homeschooling movement. Her book The Way Home was a powerful rebuttal of the radical feminist agenda and she minced no words as she made an appeal for rejecting all sorts of sacred cows. Mary was outspoken and certainly no model of the perfect patriarch wife and ruffled lots of male feathers. One of my fondest memories of homeschooling in the early days (nearly 30 years ago now) is of a conference in the St. Louis area with Gregg Harris, Michael Farris, and Mary … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Outbreeding ‘Others’ to Have a Wholely White Christian Nation

by Mary Pride from her book The Way Home page 80 - Evangelism Through Reproduction We Christians can sometimes be inconsistent. We'd fight and scream if someone tried to stamp out our evangelistic efforts....Let's say that Christians are 20 percent of the US population. If each Christian family had six children, and the humanists, feminists, and others kept on having an average of one.....then in twenty years there would be sixty of us for every forty of them. In forty years, 90 percent of America would be Christian! That is without outside evangelism. All we'd have to do would be to have children and raise them for Christ... [T]hen in two generations...we would be over 40 percent of the … [Read more...]

1971-1972 Good Baptist Boys Don’t Dance

by Bruce Gerenscer cross posted from his blog The Way ForwardNinth grade school picture, wearing the welfare glasses I got in 1971. It took me all of 4 weeks to earn enough money to get a pair wire rimmed glasses. I was so embarrassed to wear these glasses. Everyone knew our family was on welfare.It’s September of 1971 and I am fourteen and a ninth grade student at Central Junior High School in Findlay, Ohio. It’s time for gym class and today we are going to square dance. Except I won’t be square dancing because the church I attended, Trinity Baptist Church, considered dancing a sin. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Why is it Always Extremes? Where’s the ‘Middle Ground’ in Patriarchy?

by Russell D. Moore as posted at Ladies Against Feminism and Moore to the Point - What I've Learned in Twenty Years of Marriage.Russell actually makes some decent points about marriage in this piece. But he also illustrates the black and white thinking of many in the Evangelical church. I knew on our first date that I loved her and wanted to spend my life with her. But many told us, “Wait until you can afford it before you get married.” It’s true. We had … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: How Can Accountability and Standards Be ‘Wrong’?

by Karen Campbell at her blog That Mom - Patriarchy on Trial, part four A new, organized, and clearly focused group of former homeschool students, motivated, in part, by the bad fruits of patriocentric homeschooling, have taken up the banner for homeschooling reform, putting the very good ideals at the heart of homeschooling at risk. Their legitimate concerns over some instances of sexual, physical, emotional, and spiritual abuse of children have resulted in their misguided call for state-operated control over all homeschooling and have even extended to their advancement of “homosexual rights” for homeschooled children. Though I have had similar concerns about treatment of all children, home … [Read more...]

Preparing To Be A Help Meet – Debi and Michael’s Love Story Part One

by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideTo be clear, Debi and Michael's story is NOT a love story.  There is precious little love involved and a whole heap of red flags.I had just turned thirteen when I first saw him and knew, just simply knew, he was my man.  If he had glanced over and been able to read my mind he would have surely laughed.  (...)The whole community had been talking about the famous, young preacher who had been invited to speak at First Baptist Church's Teen Retreat.  (...) My young mind quickly assessed him.  He seemed bigger than life, a super, in charge type of man. I guessed he must have been at least 21 years old. (...) … [Read more...]

News: Utah Modesty Police Photoshop Yearbook Photos

from Michael Stone at his blog Progressive Secular Humanist - American Taliban: Utah Modesty Police Edit Girls' Yearbook PhotosEditorial note: This has been all over the media the last few days. Apparently  Good Christians/Mormons (tm) decided that tank tops and bra straps were the big No-No and decided to keep Utah boys pure of lustful thoughts by photoshopping (badly) sleeves onto shirts covering shoulders and bra straps. More slut-shaming in this modesty standard that wasn't even applied consistently.Modesty standards and slut shaming isn't just for Biblical Patriarches, Minthegap's Adam Gregorin and church busybodies any more. … [Read more...]

So I’ve Been Spiritually Abused, What Next?: The Narcissistic Pastor – How to Recognize a Spiritual Abuser

from the website An Irenicon - The Narcissistic PastorSo what does the narcissistic pastor look like?  I’m a humble person, so I’ll merely recount the characteristics of narcissism as identified by Sam Vaknin (himself diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder). His thoughts are in bold. Like I said I’m too humble to know any of this firsthand. Having worked, lived, confided for, and studied with many pastors, however, I know that it touches our profession intimately. Comments following the boldface reflect my actual experiences working in the church. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: “Making” Yourself Pleasant?

by Nancy Campbell from Above Rubies - A Beautiful Word One of the beautiful Hebrew words in the Bible is ta' anuwg and it means "delightful, lovely, precious, cherished, pleasant." This word is used in three different ways about family life.1) The love of a husband and wife. In Song of Solomon 7:6 NLT the husband says to his wife, "Oh, how beautiful you are! How pleasing my love, how full of delights!" Why is she so delightful? Because she takes time to make herself delightful and pleasant to her husband. … [Read more...]