Quoting Quiverfull: Forbidden Fruit

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by Bill Gothard of ATI from his site billgothard.com - Conquering Temptations: Looking at "Forbidden Fruit" "Forbidden fruit" appeals to the lusts of our flesh, the lusts of our eyes, or the pride of life. "All that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world" (1 John 2:16). … [Read more...]

Vision Forum Ministries Closing

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by Suzanne Calulu cross posted from her blog True Love Doesn't Rape Today it was announced on Vision Forum Ministries site that in light of the Doug Phillips scandal that the ministry would be locking the doors and shuttering the building. They are completely shutting down. Here's what they've posted on the Vision Forum Ministries site. … [Read more...]

Phillips Social Circle Defend Him, Calling Those Who Disagree “Ungodly”

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by Lana Hope cross posted from her blog Wide Open Ground My friend Heather at Becoming Worldy wrote a blog post that outlines “the path that Doug Phillips will try to take to ‘restoration’ and ‘forgiveness.’” She gives us 15 steps. 1.) Man gets caught with pants down 2.) Man denies it or provides excuses and pretends like everything is fine 3) Man is forced by elders/leaders/media/angry mob of former minions to fess up … [Read more...]

Is Clergy Sexual Infidelity Rare?

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by Bruce Gerencser cross posted from his blog The Way Forward Doug Phillips, of Vision Forum/Vision Forum Ministries, recently confessed that he had an inappropriate sexual relationship with a woman who is not his wife. (see my previous post in this) Defenders of Phillips have taken to their blogs, websites, Twitter, and Facebook, to do damage control on the behalf of Phillips and the patriarchal movement. One such defender is Voddie Baucham, the African-American version of Doug Phillips, sans the scandal. Baucham is an Independent Baptist pastor.  (you can find Baucham’s website here) … [Read more...]

“We All Sin:” A 15 Step Path to Forgiveness for Doug Phillips

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by Heather Doney cross posted from her blog Becoming Worldly The Doug Phillips affair scandal has rocked and shocked the Quiverfull and Christian Patriarchy world the past few days, so I figured I’d address one angle that to my knowledge hasn’t been covered in depth yet: the path that Doug Phillips will try to take to “restoration” and “forgiveness.” It usually seems to take about 15 steps. But first, some background: … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Doug Phillips Resignation from Vision Forum

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by Doug Wilson from his blog Blog and Mablog -  Doug Phillips Resignation from Vision Forum I thought I should say something about Doug Phillips’ resignation from Vision Forum, but it won’t be very much. The news was of course tragic, sad, and humbling. That said, I thought his letter of resignation was good, and accomplished what a letter like that needed to accomplish. I am glad he stepped down from leadership, and am glad he cancelled his future speaking engagements, and that is all to the good. Given the sin, that is what should happen. We should grieve over the damage done, rejoice in his repentance, and wish him and his family nothing but the best. … [Read more...]

It’s Not the Affair That Irks Me, Mr. Phillips

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  by Lana Hope cross posted from the blog Homeschoolers Anonymous and her blog Wide Open Ground Doug Philips, president of Vision Forum, and popular advocate of Christian Reconstructionism, Christian Patriarchy, and the Stay-at-Home-Daughter Movement, who has influenced 1000s of homeschool families to not use birth control or send their daughters to college and keep daughters at stay home until they marry, cites some kind of emotional affair as reason he is stepping down from Vision Forum. … [Read more...]

How Should Churches Handle Allegations of Abuse?

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by Bruce Gerencser cross posted from his blog The Way Forward First of all, churches shouldn’t “handle” anything.  This is what gets churches, pastors, and church leaders into trouble to start with. Instead of immediately doing the right thing when someone makes an allegation of abuse they often: … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: The Grim Harvest of Safe Sex?

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Safe Sex, an urban legend … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Is Homemade Porn Between Married Partners Okay?

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by Doug Wilson from his blog Blog & Mablog - Home Made Porn And last, I want to address the pornification of modern life — and assume in the thought experiment that “secure means” really is possible. If it were possible to guard against voyeurism with the same degree of security that your bedroom lock and curtains provide, would it be lawful then? I don’t think it is possible, but what if it were? I would want to answer the same way I did in the second category above. It is wise to be wary. … [Read more...]


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