Quoting Quiverfull: Who Decides the Definition of “Apostate”?

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by Kevin Swanson of Generations With Vision - Homeschool Apostates and Kathryn Joyce's Sins And, yes, yes. We can see that faithlessness tends to be generational and builds on itself from generation to generation.I make no bones about it.  We’re in the minority.  The masses are moving towards apostasy. The millennial generation is far more likely to be pro-homosexual, pro-evolution, and pro-socialist than the previous generation. (Reference: http://www.pewforum.org/2010/02/17/religion-among-the-millennials/). … [Read more...]

CTBHHM: Earning Your Abuser’s Trust

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy Feminism***trigger warning for domestic violence***This section is called “Earning His Trust,” and calling it that is messed up on about three million levels, as we shall see. It is the story of a young woman named Sunny. … [Read more...]

Love Misapplied: A Response to Chris Jeub

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy Feminism and Homeschoolers AnonymousI grew up hearing about Chris Jeub.He was a big name in NCFCA homeschool debate circles, and while I never met him I did use the evidence briefs he put out. The Jeubs had 16 kids and were deep into the patriarchal and controlling ideas at the heart of the most conservative strains of the Christian homeschooling movement. In fact, they kicked their daughter Alicia out of the family and shunned her completely when she became “rebellious.” However, Chris says that he and his family have since left that whole legalistic mess. … [Read more...]

CTBHHM: Only Ever Think Good

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love, Joy, FeminismCreated To Be His Help Meet, pp. 128-132In this section Debi goes into more depth about just what “reverencing” one’s husband actually looks like in practice. Her focus in this section is on thought patterns—basically, she argues that women should brainwash themselves into only ever thinking good of their husbands. Debi starts by outlining what she argues is a common problem for her intended audience: … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: How Much More ‘Clear’ Does Doug Phillips Need to Be?

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by Doug Phillips of Vision Forum on Vision Forum Ministries website re his 'sin' that caused the closing of Vision Forum Ministries I would like to express my gratitude for the great kindness so many have shown to my family in the wake of my stepping down as president of Vision Forum Ministries. My family has been greatly encouraged by many loving notes we have received. With that in mind, I want to be so very clear about the rightness of this transition, and I want to clear up some matters which have been brought to my … [Read more...]

How Doug Phillips Wreaked Havoc On My Family

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy Feminism and Homeschoolers AnonymousMy parents homeschooled me K-12, and during those years they fell under the influence of several Christian leaders who spread toxic dogma and find their following within the Christian homeschool movement. My parents never followed Gothard, but they did follow both Michael Pearl and Doug Phillips. I’ve … [Read more...]

CTBHHM: The (Proxy) Bride of (an Abusive) Christ

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy FeminismCreated To Be His Help Meet, pp. 124-127 A wise woman understands that her husband’s need to be honored is not based on his performance, but on his nature and his God-ordained position. She learns quickly to defer to his ideas or plans with enthusaism. She looks for ways to reverence him. She knows this is God’s will for her life. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Apostate Homeschoolers or Chicken Little?

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by Kevin Swanson of Generations with Vision radio show - Apostate Homeschoolers and Atheist Boy ScoutsIf you listen to the above linked radio show you'll hear at about the 5 minute mark Swanson reference what sounds very much like Homeschoolers Anonymous and a number of bloggers we know (Libby Anne, Heather Doney et al) Perhaps he has seen this site or any of the other sites about recovery?Interesting. … [Read more...]

CTBHHM: In Which Debi Has Scientific Proof

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy FeminismCreated To Be His Help Meet, pp. 221-222Debi starts this section with these reassurances: So, is a woman a second-class citizen of the kingdom? Is she to be a subdued, brow-beaten servant to the male species? Certainly not! What the Bible teaches will not put women back into the Stone Age, nor will it turn us into a bunch of Muslim-like women who stay covered in black, sweaty bourkhas. If you knew me (and by the time you finish reading this … [Read more...]

CTBHHM: Women Can Be Effective Leaders – So What?

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy FeminismCreated To Be His Help Meet, pp. 119-121Some of you have noted that Debi’s getting a bit repetitive. In future posts I’m going to try to move more quickly through parts where Debi’s simply restating what she’s already said. In this section, though, Debi says something I don’t think she’s said before. God expresses a clear and sure mandate when he tells us: “But I suffer not [do not allow] a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, [that includes your pastor] but to be in silence.” (I Timothy 2:12).I call your attention back to the argument in a letter we read in chapter 5. [I reviewed that section in this post … [Read more...]


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