Quoting Quiverfull: What Does That Love Look Like Exactly?

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by John Piper of Desiring God and The Council on Biblical Manhood & Womanhood as quoted at Ladies Against Feminism - Christian Love and Putting on ChristEditor's note: For a people that constantly brag about love I'm not seeing it at all. We do get to witness hate, discrimination, racism, pressure to conform, and a great many other things that don't exactly ooze love. I see a lot of hypocrisy in this statement. What do you think dear readers? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Emotions and Thoughts Are Sin Too?

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by John Piper from Desiring God and Council on Biblical Manhood & Womanhood tweeted and then deleted. From Spiritual Sounding Board's Facebook page.Editor's note: One of the most poisonous teachings in the world of both Quiverfull and Evangelical Christianity is that your own feelings and emotions are a sin. They take the notion that anything you think or feel is sinful when if you take an objective look at the Ten Commandments all of the rules stem from actions, not thoughts or emotions. Demonizing emotion is a good way to ensure your flock stays feeling guilty at all times and firmly under the control of the cult leader. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Today’s Men & Women?

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by Owen Strachan of Desiring God in the Introduction for John Piper's new book "Good: The Joy of Christian Manhood and Womanhood" from pages 19 to 20. You can download it for free and it's filled with bad theology enough to make you chuckle on a rainy Friday. We are going to be pulled as men and women toward certain unGodly behaviors. Men today are told that they are idiots, little boys  who never grow up.  We see such cowardice in both Adam's initial failure  to protect the woman God gave him and his subsequent instinct to blame Eve for his sinful leadership (Genesis 3: 1-7) Women today are told that their value is in their looks, or their social skills, or their ability to dominate men. We … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: No Divorce Even if Abused?

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by Sam Crabtree at John Piper's Desiring God blog - Until Death Do We Part - For Real Some disapprove, saying that Jesus allows exceptions — that is, he allows divorce in cases of adultery — but a careful reading of Matthew 5:32 shows that adultery does not nullify or overrule what God has joined together. Rather than adultery being a cause for divorce, it is the divorce and remarriage of divorced parties which causes adultery. … [Read more...]

“Equal But Subordinate” and Soft Complementarinism

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by Kristen Rosser cross posted from her blog Wordgazer's Words My analysis of the "Equal but Subordinate" teaching on women in Christianity seems to be turning into a series.  I didn't intend to do this, but I do believe the implications of this teaching in its various manifestations should be addressed fully.  This, then, is Part 3 (and I hope the conclusion!) … [Read more...]

News: Petition Asks Gender Role Group to Repent

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reposted from ABP News Please consider signing the petition. A 2010 petition being recycled at Change.org claims that an organization based at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary emphasizes wifely submission over the gospel. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Lesbian Sex is Like Esau How?

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by John Piper from his blog Desiring God - Lesbian Sex, HIV, Esau and Christ The Insanity of SinEsau “sold his birthright for a single meal” (Hebrews 12:16). This is insane. His desire for food had made him irrational: “I am about to die; of what use is a birthright to me?” (Genesis 25:32). Besides the spiritual aspects of primogeniture, the firstborn was to receive twice the inheritance of other brothers (Deuteronomy 21:17). … [Read more...]

Why Protesting “Equal But Subordinate” is Not Just Me Having a Problem With Authority

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by Kristen Rosser cross posted from her blog Wordgazer's WordsI received some feedback in the comments on my last post regarding the logical fallacy of claiming women are equal and yet divinely intended for eternal subordination to men.  Here is a quote from the comments: … [Read more...]

Illustrative of Complementarism: Yes… But Not In The Way He Thinks

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by Kristen Rosser cross posted from her blog Wordgazer's WordsThis week John Ensor posted at the Desiring God blog a piece called "An Olympic Lesson for Husbands and Wives."  Here are a few reasons he thinks pairs ice skating is the perfect metaphor and illustration of Christian complementarian (male-headship) marriage: … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Skating Pairs?

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by John Ensor at John Piper's blog Desiring God - An Olympic Lesson for Husbands and Wives Sochi is helping me be a better husband. And the Olympics are freshly making my wife to delight in her role as well. The surprising lesson is on display in figure skating pairs.At its best, this event displays the strength and beauty of unity: how two different people become one. The gold goes to that couple which has most mastered the skill of male leadership and female support making one glorious whole. … [Read more...]


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