You Can Fall in Lust But Not Love?

by Calulu cross posted from her blog True Love Doesn't RapeVaughn Ohlman's latest scripture limbo playing fast and loose involves braying that it's not possible to 'fall' in love. Why? Well, because falling is mentioned in the Bible as a negative or passive word according to the few scriptures he managed to pull up and glom together to support his point.Hey, join in that FUN game, grab some scriptures and claim they mean all sorts of things it's likely they … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Don’t Work With Men as Equals?

by Bill Gothard of ATI/Vision Forum (If not personally written by Bill he has approved the message)  "While unmarried women may have more flexibility in applying the principle that women were created for a domestic calling, it is not the ordinary and fitting role of women to work alongside men as their functional equals in public spheres of dominion … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Why is it Always About Sex?

by Vaughn Ohlman from True Love Doesn't Wait - If Courtship Were HonestThe other day I was speaking to a courtship advocate and he called my definition of marriage ‘shortsighted’. What was my definition? Well, it was just a partial definition but it was ‘a lifelong sexual relationship’, basically. My interlocutor didn’t like that, since he was trying to say that, in a courtship done well, there was no possibility for the young man to ‘lust’ after the woman he was courting. That he could continue to treat her as a ‘sister’ and denied they had a ‘quasi-covenant’. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Following a Leader?

by Nancy Campbell of Above Rubies - Are You Following The Leader? This morning at Family Devotions we read the Scripture we know so well, "Be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Modesty Prayer?

by Stacy McDonald of Ladies Against Feminism and Your Sacred Calling  -  Living out Biblical Principles: A Young Woman's Prayer of Chastity I have made a covenant with my body to be discreet and chaste; why then should I flaunt myself before men? Does God not see my ways and count all my steps (Job 31:1,4)? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Divorce and Abuse?

by Michael Pearl of No Greater Joy - Divorce and AbuseThere is a treasure trove of Michael Pearl answering Bible Questions on YouTube and  No Greater Joy. Trigger warning for Christianese and meat butchering. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Be Feminine?

by Colin Campbell from Meat For Men - Real Men Appreciate Feminine WomenReal men do not appreciate women who try to be men. Nor do they appreciate men who act like women. Real men, who have the right amount of testosterone powering through their veins, appreciate women for their femininity. They appreciate that women have a different role to men. … [Read more...]

Why Betrothal Isn’t ‘The Answer’

by Calulu cross posted from her blog True Love Doesn't RapeLast week brought the news that Vaughn Ohlman of True Love Doesn't Wait betrothed his son Joshua to a young lady up in Michigan named Laura Camp. I wish both of them well, they look like good well-scrubbed Fundie Christians. They're going to need all the luck and good wishes they can garner considering the explanation of betrothal Josh's dad gave in the wake of the announcement.Marriage isn't easy under the best of circumstances. It's a struggle sometimes to create a union where each is valued for who they are and both partners fit together in complimentary ways. Their type of betrothal sets up a pretty high potential for … [Read more...]

Sunday Shout Out: How Quick is Too Quick?

 One of our readers on Facebook brought out a good question. She wanted to know what everyone thought about the fact that Joshua Ohlman and Laura Camp only knew each other a grand total of two hours before the betrothal was signed.Is it better to take more time than a few hours to decide if this is the person you are willing to spend the rest of your life with?You can sound off below in the comments or if you wish to write a longer piece for publication on this subject you can drop me a line at CaluluNLQ(at)gmail(dot)com  Results published next Sunday! … [Read more...]

Damaged Goods

 by Calulu cross posted from her blog True Love Doesn't RapeTrue Love Doesn't Wait author Von Ohlman has been taking on the writings of one Michael Pearl, author of "To Train Up A Child" and founder of No Greater Joy Ministry.You remember To "Train Up A Child" don't you? That child training book that has been blamed for the beating and starvation death of adoptive child Hana Grace Williams and the deaths of a few other children?  The trial of Hana's adoptive parents started last week. They'd been charged with murder, as they well should be. Michael Pearl and his cruel book also hold some culpability in my mind. But back to the subject. … [Read more...]