Merry Christmas: Open Thread

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Until Thursday morn NLQ will be taking a breather to spend time with family and friends. In the meantime may we present a mega Quoting Quiverfull with links to all the ways our usual line up of pontificating fundamentalists think we should be celebrating the holiday.Plus a question to think about and post in the thread. How has the holiday season changed for you after leaving whatever former faith you were part of. Is is better? Worst? No difference? What holiday do you celebrate? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Heartbreaking Quotes From “To Train Up A Child”

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by Debi and Michael Pearl from "To Train Up A Child" as quoted at the site Why Not Train A ChildPage 9 At five months, she was too unknowing to be punished for disobedience. But for her own good (and our peace of mind), we attempted to train her not to climb the stairs by coordinating the voice command of “No” with little spats on her bare legs. The switch was a twelve-once long, one-eighth-inch diameter sprig from a … [Read more...]

CTBHHM: Surrendering Your Autonomy to Another

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy FeminismCreated To Be His Help Meet, pp. 136—37Sometimes Debi misinterprets Bible passages, and badly. More often, though, she simply adds things, brazenly, and without even offering any of her twisted scriptures to back them up. This wouldn’t be such a problem except that evangelicals and fundamentalists make a big deal of adhering to the Bible and the Bible alone, condemning mainline Christians for adding to the Bible. … [Read more...]

CTBHHM: Earning Your Abuser’s Trust

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy Feminism***trigger warning for domestic violence***This section is called “Earning His Trust,” and calling it that is messed up on about three million levels, as we shall see. It is the story of a young woman named Sunny. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: “To Train Up A Child” Harmful?

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by Michael Pearl from No Greater Love "The alleged presence of the book makes it no more responsible for Hanna’s death than the presence of a weight loss book in the home of an overweight person is responsible for their obesity." Posted by CNN on their front page yesterday."To Train Up a Child" linked to deaths … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Always a Battle?

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by Rachel D Ramer of CRI - Christian Families on the Edge Author Reb Bradley, however, echoes the Pearls: “Keep your objective in mind — subjection of their will.…Teach your children to obey without being told ‘why.’”11 Authors William and Colleen Dedrick also concur: “When your child disregards or disobeys your command, he breaks fellowship with you and … [Read more...]

CTBHHM: Only Ever Think Good

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love, Joy, FeminismCreated To Be His Help Meet, pp. 128-132In this section Debi goes into more depth about just what “reverencing” one’s husband actually looks like in practice. Her focus in this section is on thought patterns—basically, she argues that women should brainwash themselves into only ever thinking good of their husbands. Debi starts by outlining what she argues is a common problem for her intended audience: … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Michael Pearl Says Again TTUAC is Not Linked to Hana Williams Death

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by Michael Pearl from the No Greater Joy Ministry page - Larry and Carri Williams Found Guilty Hana Williams’ parents were given the maximum prison sentences. Articles are appearing in blogs and newspapers across the country that are full of fabrications, lies and misstatements about To Train Up a Child. It should not be taken as fact just because it is written somewhere. … [Read more...]

How Doug Phillips Wreaked Havoc On My Family

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy Feminism and Homeschoolers AnonymousMy parents homeschooled me K-12, and during those years they fell under the influence of several Christian leaders who spread toxic dogma and find their following within the Christian homeschool movement. My parents never followed Gothard, but they did follow both Michael Pearl and Doug Phillips. I’ve … [Read more...]

CTBHHM: The (Proxy) Bride of (an Abusive) Christ

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy FeminismCreated To Be His Help Meet, pp. 124-127 A wise woman understands that her husband’s need to be honored is not based on his performance, but on his nature and his God-ordained position. She learns quickly to defer to his ideas or plans with enthusaism. She looks for ways to reverence him. She knows this is God’s will for her life. … [Read more...]


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