Quoting Quiverfull: Don’t Judge Poor Old Bill Gothard?

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by Nellie from her blog Snatchlings (sic) - A Time for Grief, and Gratefulness I've also been feeling grateful for God's work in my life, through the Institute and afterward. Of course, without the afterward I might not be as grateful. ;) But God routinely uses broken vessels (well, what else does He have to use?). In fact, that's what He's chosen and ordained to work through. Not to minimize Mr. Gothard's sin and hypocrisy one iota, but we are all sinners and hypocrites, and we're lucky God uses any of us to advance His kingdom and glorify Himself. The fact is, God chose to do a lot of good in my life and teach me a lot of things through Mr. Gothard (and the many wise people around him). … [Read more...]

News: What Does Fundamentalist Evangelical Christianity Look Like in Politics?

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Through the years the Christian Right has tried mightily to advance their culture and rules on the masses in our nation with somewhere mixed effect. Every now and then one of them with extremist views manages to get elected or win a primary. Southern Baptist Pastor Jody Hice just won the GOP primary for a senate seat representing the state of Georgia. He has some scary, not very Christian, Christian views.  … [Read more...]

Lourdes, Lifeboats, and Bounded Choice: The Complicated Process of Exiting Totalist Groups Part 4

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by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from Spiritual Sounding BoardObstacles that Second Generation Adults like Lourdes Torres-Manteufel must overcome when exiting threatening, high demand situations and groups like Doug Phillips’ Vision Forum “When we leave, we actually don’t have what we need to survive outside.” ~ Jill Mytton … [Read more...]

News: More Rumors on Possible Jill & Derick Dillard Reality Show

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So this doesn't mean it will happen but there's more talk of it. Not sure how reliable a site that misspells one of the subject's names could be. This all almost sounds like something cooked up by the Grandma Duggar publicity machine.From the site Enstaz - Jill Duggar, Derrick Dillard News 2014: Fans Are Urging Couple To Do Their Own Reality Show and Get Pregnant Some of the comments on Duggar's Instagram account include, "I hope TLC follows you like they do @annaduggar and @joshduggar!! We learn so much from all of you! So thankful for your family" as well as, "Please have some kids!! LOL. U guys will have very handsome babies." … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Marriage is More Important Than College or Discovering Who You Are?

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by Kelly Crawford posted both at Ladies Against Feminism and her blog Generation Cedar - 5 Things People Think About Marriage and Growing Up That Are Wrong College and becoming who you want to be and discovering yourself and your career should be much more important than getting married and tying yourself down to a commitment when the discovery of yourself has not yet been found. College is a time for individuals to discover themselves and find their paths in life. Marriage would greatly inhibit this. You cannot grow with another person until you fully know yourself. I am doubtful that anyone ranging from the ages 18-23 has fully found themselves yet. (Comment left here on the blog.) … [Read more...]

Lourdes, Lifeboats, and Bounded Choice: The Complicated Process of Exiting Totalist Groups Part 3

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by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from Spiritual Sounding Board Using Katie Botkin’s lifeboat analogy, Cindy Kunsman explores the “Second Generation Adult” and Lourdes Torres-Mantefeuel’s alleged sex abuse by Vision Forum’s Doug Phillips By Cindy Kunsman, UnderMuchGrace.com On the same day that Lourdes Torres-Manteufel’s petition was filed, the first cousin of Vision Forum’s Stay at Home Daughter evangelists/role models published a blog essay that I found deeply moving. Katie Botkin, the daughter of Geoffrey Botkin‘s brother Greg, noted that attorney David C. Gibbs III filed the documents on the anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic. Doug Phillips used the event as a talking point and cele … [Read more...]

Mike Huckabee, Immigration and Evangelical Compassion

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love, Joy, FeminismI haven’t said anything about the tens of thousands of unaccompanied children entering the U.S. from the countries south of Mexico, but I’ve been following the story. I’ve never quite understood why American evangelicals are so anti-immigration and pro-borders. And I say this as someone who grew up in an evangelical family solidly involved in conservative politics. But border issues were never my thing. The first year I participated in homeschool speech and debate in high school, the topic was illegal immigration. My partner and I developed a plan that involved giving jobs training and other services to immigrations, transfo … [Read more...]

Lourdes, Lifeboats and Bounded Choice: The Complicated Progress of Exiting Totalist Groups: Part 2

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by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from Spiritual Sounding BoardRead Part 1 first...***Cindy Kunsman explains how Doug Phillips relegated Vision Forum acolytes to bounded choice – a dynamic only intensified for Lourdes Torres-Manteufel by alleged sex abuse.***Note from Julie Anne:  This is Part 2 of Cindy Kunsman’s series on Bounded Choice.  In this series she is helping us to understand the process people go through when they have lived in a high-controlling religious system as was Lourdes Torres-Manteufel’s experience.  Lourdes’ and Cindy’s story can help shed light in our own experience or the experience of someone we know and love.  Having this understanding is pivotal in t … [Read more...]

Lourdes, Lifeboats, and Bounded Choice: The Complicated Process of Exiting Totalist Groups Part 1

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by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from The Spiritual Sounding BoardAfter reading the account of the Lourdes Torres-Manteufel abuse by Vision Forum founder, Doug Phillips, Cindy Kunsman reflects on her own sex abuse story.Note from Julie Anne:  I remember talking to Cindy Kunsman around the time the Lourdes Torres-Manteufel lawsuit was made public. Lourdes’ story greatly affected her in a personal way, reminding her of her own sexually abusive childhood. This sometimes happens when someone else’s story reminds us of our own painful experience. Statistics tell us that there are a lot of people who have been sexually abused. If you have been sexually abused, this may be a sensitive subject f … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Buy Used and Save the Difference?

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by the Duggar girls, Jill, Jana, Jessa and Jinger Duggar in their book "Growing Up Duggar" page 17 Very interesting in light of the preparations for Jill's recent wedding.  And since our favorite shopping style is frugality, our favorite places to shop are thrift and consignment stores. If you shop there enough (and we go fairly often!) you can find great clothes at great prices. … [Read more...]


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