You Can Fall in Lust But Not Love?

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by Calulu cross posted from her blog True Love Doesn't RapeVaughn Ohlman's latest scripture limbo playing fast and loose involves braying that it's not possible to 'fall' in love. Why? Well, because falling is mentioned in the Bible as a negative or passive word according to the few scriptures he managed to pull up and glom together to support his point.Hey, join in that FUN game, grab some scriptures and claim they mean all sorts of things it's likely they … [Read more...]

CTBHHM: In Which Debi Can’t Read Genesis

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love Joy FeminismCreated To Be His Help Meet, pp. 118Debi starts this next section with a quick overview of what is required of a help meet: God tells us that we are to be help meets: We are to submit, obey, and even … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Don’t Work With Men as Equals?

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by Bill Gothard of ATI/Vision Forum (If not personally written by Bill he has approved the message)  "While unmarried women may have more flexibility in applying the principle that women were created for a domestic calling, it is not the ordinary and fitting role of women to work alongside men as their functional equals in public spheres of dominion … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Why is it Always About Sex?

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by Vaughn Ohlman from True Love Doesn't Wait - If Courtship Were HonestThe other day I was speaking to a courtship advocate and he called my definition of marriage ‘shortsighted’. What was my definition? Well, it was just a partial definition but it was ‘a lifelong sexual relationship’, basically. My interlocutor didn’t like that, since he was trying to say that, in a courtship done well, there was no possibility for the young man to ‘lust’ after the woman he was courting. That he could continue to treat her as a ‘sister’ and denied they had a ‘quasi-covenant’. … [Read more...]

Pastor Rapes Away the Gay and Gets By With It

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by Bruce Gerencser cross posted from his blog The Way ForwardNo commentary from me. The story from Addicting Info says it all: <A HREF="http://ws.amazon.com/widgets/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&MarketPlace=US&ID=V20070822%2FUS%2Ffamiliesthatflou%2F8010%2F3a66ffe9-ddd0-4d6b-8d9b-5eebb6c82db3&Operation=NoScript">Amazon.com Widgets</A>No commentary from me. The story from Addicting Info says it all: By now, we’ve all undoubtedly heard of and been outraged by a Montana judge sentencing a former teacher to a mere 30 days in prison for raping one of his female students. But have you heard of the Iowa youth pastor who is walking free after confessing to raping boys to “ … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Modesty Prayer?

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by Stacy McDonald of Ladies Against Feminism and Your Sacred Calling  -  Living out Biblical Principles: A Young Woman's Prayer of Chastity I have made a covenant with my body to be discreet and chaste; why then should I flaunt myself before men? Does God not see my ways and count all my steps (Job 31:1,4)? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Divorce and Abuse?

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by Michael Pearl of No Greater Joy - Divorce and AbuseThere is a treasure trove of Michael Pearl answering Bible Questions on YouTube and  No Greater Joy. Trigger warning for Christianese and meat butchering. … [Read more...]

Seven Tips For Keeping Your Man

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These 'tips' are out of relationship books from the 1950s. Reading through them you can see that the 'advice' sounds very much like the writings of certain Quiverfull proponents and their words on how to treat your husband. Do we really want to go back sixty years? Cross posting this from the  Mental Floss site.Woman, you have no idea how lucky you are to have landed a man. But as the literature of the mid-century’s greatest matrimonial minds tells us, he’s one wrinkled shirt away from leaving you. Eyes open and mouth shut ladies. It’s about to get real. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Be Feminine?

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by Colin Campbell from Meat For Men - Real Men Appreciate Feminine WomenReal men do not appreciate women who try to be men. Nor do they appreciate men who act like women. Real men, who have the right amount of testosterone powering through their veins, appreciate women for their femininity. They appreciate that women have a different role to men. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Public Schooling is Always Mediocre?

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by Carma from her blog Winging It and Ladies Against Feminism - Put Your Own Mask on First in response to an article at Salon - Private school vs. public school: If You Send Your Kid to Private School, You Are a Bad Person The gist of Ms. Benedikt’s article is the point she intends to make, which is:But it seems to me that if every single parent sent every single child to public school, public schools would improve. This would not happen immediately. It could take generations. Your children and grandchildren might get mediocre educations in the meantime, but it will be worth it, for the eventual common good. … [Read more...]


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