News: Duggar’s New Show ‘Counting On’ Rumored to be on the Verge of Cancellation?

There have been a pile of Duggar rumors in the last few weeks, rumors of Jill Duggar Dillard possible pregnancy in Ziki-riddled Central America, of Anna Duggar's possible pregnancy, of Anna and Josh's return to one another, the desperation of Jim Bob and Michelle to shoot down all those divorce rumors and that TLC and the Duggars faked the recent episode of their new show featuring Jinger buying and flipping a car. Whew, busy few weeks in Duggar news. … [Read more...]

The Loneliness of Those That Leave Church

by Bruce Gerencser cross posted from his blog The Life and Times of Bruce GerencserFrom your earliest recollection you remember the church.You remember the preacher, the piano player, the deacons, and your Sunday School teacher.You remember the youth group and all the fun activities.You remember getting saved and baptized.You remember being in church every time the doors were open. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Fake It Till You Make It?

by Nancy Campbell from Above Rubies - Make It HappenEditor's note: This theme of emotional denial and faking your joy until it turns real is the real toxic message in the Quiverfull world. It's also one of the most heavily promoted ones by Nancy. Makes one wonder how enraged and sad she must be behind that fake grin and odd voice of hers. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Really Loving Your Husband or Slavery?

by Nancy Campbell and her readers at Above Rubies - How Can I Love My Husband?Editor's  note: This list is like so many things in Quiverfull, not necessarily bad advice, just leavened with enough toxic to render much of it poisonous.  What is the obsession with running your husband's bath? I am reminded of the time I spent the night at the nearest all suites hotel to Ken Ham's Answers in Genesis Creationism museum. That morning in the breakfast area filled with 'Good Christians' wearing their museum t-shirts I witnessed one woman slavishly waiting on her husband and sons, hand and foot. As the man and boys remained seated at a table she rushed around and fixed their plates from the b … [Read more...]

Answering ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’ – Biblical Engagement?

Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical,  rational and the best possible solution, in other words 1 … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 7 – Emotions Make Women Lazy?

by Larry Solomon from Biblical Gender Roles - 7 Steps to Dealing With a Lazy WifeEditor's note: This will be longer than usual but we're going to finish up Mr. Toxic's brew here. Interestingly enough he's posted a what to do about a lazy husband piece sometime yesterday. There are only 4 steps and he does allow for divorce for deadbeat husbands. … [Read more...]

You Probably Know a Quiverfull Family – This Anti-Woman Christian Cult is Everywhere

by NLQ founder Vyckie Garrison originally posted at Raw Story There’s been some speculation recently about whether the Willis Family, the musically-talented mega-family of 14 featured on TLC’s creatively-titled reality TV show, “The Willis Family,” follows the Quiverfull movement. Toby and Brenda Willis, along with their one dozen lovely children, appear strikingly similar to TLC’s scandal-ridden Duggar Family … only with considerably more talent and rather less legalism. Like JimBob and Michelle, the Christian couple follows most, but not all of the lifestyle particulars promoted and practiced by Quiverfull families based on their “biblical worldview.” … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 6 – Emotions Make Women Lazy?

by Larry Solomon from Biblical Gender Roles – 7 Steps to Dealing With a Lazy WifeEditor's note: Threatening to tell the children later that their mom is lazy seems  so petty idiotic passive aggressive. Anyone openly disparaging their spouse to the children is the one that needs to be 'disciplined' … [Read more...]

It’s Not That Complicated: Part 2 Chapter 6

by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideAll quotes from the book in blue textWell, we have about 2.5 pages of reflection left on the Proverbs 7 woman - also known as the "Forbidden Woman".To get it out of my system now, let me start by pointing out that the Proverbs 7 woman is an adulteress which means she's a married woman who is having sexual intercourse with a man who is not her husband.  The Botkin Sisters application of this Bible section to causal relationships between unmarried men and women is at best overwrought and at worst a knowing misapplication of basic Biblical study.   As before, since most of the reflection is quotes from other portions of P … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 5 – Emotions Make Women Lazy?

by Larry Solomon from Biblical Gender - 7 Steps to Dealing With a Lazy WifeEditor's note: Now we're getting to the interesting part. Remember all those times Larry has referred to his permanently disabled wife? He's now talking about that and the exception from the Lazy Wife rules if she's is genuinely disabled. Tomorrow we're skipping ahead to his 7 steps because Larry is being as wordy and verbose as always. … [Read more...]

All Complementarian Sex is Rape

by Samantha Field cross posted from her blog Samantha P Field.comYes, I’m leading with that because I might as well– it’s what the naysayers will swear up and down I’m arguing for in this post anyway, and I’ve already made my peace with it. Several men from inside my own progressive Christian camp have already tried to misrepresent my argument this way, and I know that it’s what the complementarians will start screaming if they even read it. So, I’m Andrea Dworkin-ing it up and owning it. My argument has already been labeled “unproductive” and “pointless” (by “feminist” men– are you surprised? I’m not), but I believe that what I’m about to lay out for you is critically important. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 4 – Emotions Make Women Lazy?

by Larry Solomon from Biblical Gender Roles - 7 Steps to Dealing With a Lazy WifeEditor's note: Now Larry is claiming you set a bad example for the children when you let mom slack. Also his comparison of a mother making the kids clean their rooms while she has a sinkful of dirty dishes and a pile of dirty clothes isn't necessarily an awful thing. It takes, what, five minutes to load the dishwasher and about that long to load the washer. It's like comparing apples and oranges. What Larry doesn't seem to get is that there might be a good legitimate reason why the dishes and clothes are stacked up that has nothing to do with laziness. … [Read more...]