Quoting Quiverfull: Catching A Vision?

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Nancy Campbell from Above Rubies - Have You Caught The Vision?Editor's note: Not much to say about this except that this is typical Nancy Campbell female cultural enforcer. Be happy about what you are doing and remember it has eternal consequences. Or the emotional beatings will continue. … [Read more...]

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Vyckie Garrison in People Magazine

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Just a quick reminder that No Longer Quivering founder  Vyckie Garrison was interviewed by People magazine in reference to the dangers of the Quiverfull life style. The issue will be on newsstands nationwide today. A teaser for the article can also be found at People.com - Duggar Scandal  Here's a few quotes by Vyckie from the article: … [Read more...]

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Memories of My Own Cognitive Dissonance: Gothard’s Doctrine of Grace as an Example

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by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from Under Much Grace originally posted in 2010In so many words (!), I’ve already shared what cognitive dissonance felt like after some exit counseling and realizing that not everything I’d believed had been true.I’d like to discuss a bit more about the process that facilitated my acceptance of Gothard’s take on grace (and other ideas introduced at the Institute of Basic Life Principles conference I attended). I only briefly mentioned it in this post. Cognitive dissonance was easy to ignore for me when I first accepted his views, but when I revised my understanding after I left the spiritually abusive system; I had no other option but to let the process … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Part 3 – Children Are Foolish?

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by Debi Pearl from No Greater Joy - Foolishness or WisdomEditor's note: Here Debi ignores the fact that not properly feeding kids is child abuse, neglect and setting them up for a lifetime of struggling with eating disorders. She thinks it teaches children to be deceitful, which is considered so much worse than the fact that the parents are legally abusing and neglecting the child. Parents with obese children get blamed too. Debi lots to throw shade at everyone before reverting to the Pearl cure-all, a whipping with 1/4 plastic plumbing line, the same implement of torture that has played a role in the deaths of Lydia Schatz and Hana Grace Williams.ETA 3:30 pm - Whoever it is that … [Read more...]

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NLQ Question of the Week: Why is a Man’s Infidelity Always The Wife’s Fault?

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This is a new series we have started running on Thursdays. Examining some of the questions involving long held Quiverfull theology and life.One of the sadder things that has happened after Josh Duggar's infidelity was exposed is the number of Christians expressing the idea that a wife is always responsible when the husband has sex with someone else during their marriage. It's an idea that has been mentioned even in the mainstream media, that poor heartbroken betrayed Anna Duggar is going to be blaming herself and it's likely the entire family will blame her. Like she doesn't have enough trauma and pain in her life this unBiblical theology point is going to add to that. It's already … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Part 2 – Children Are Foolish?

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by Debi Pearl from No Greater Joy Magazine - Foolishness or WisdomEditor's note: While Debi starts with a caution not to be so heavy handed in your parenting she ends this bit by advocating spanking to drive foolishness out. She ignores a big red flag and writes it off as 'bad habits'. If your child is hiding food or sneaking around you to eat then you should really take that quite seriously because many times it is a sign that your child fears you will not feed him, it's linked to fears of food insufficiency.  Controlling a child by controlling ever morsel going into their mouths as discipline can create some pretty horrific eating disorders. … [Read more...]

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What You Need To Know About Quiverfull And The Duggars

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by Vyckie Garrison NLQ FounderFrom her Facebook page answering this Craigslist rant:to the people and supporters of the Quiverfull Cult (United States)You incestuous brainwashed bastards should all be taken out and beaten within an inch of your lives! The sickest part is that you get away with the shit you do because of your so called "christian" values. Personally, I believe all pedophiles should be shot or hung! People had better wake up before these "christian" nutbags get ahold of your children!Someone in Seattle is super pissed ... the outrage is understandable, but also misguided. I'm going to keep saying this until somebody actually hears me: … [Read more...]

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Tim Keller on the Meaning of the Sex Act in Marriage: A Virtual Dialogue With Shirley Taylor Part 1

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by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from her blog Under Much GraceSpiritual Sounding Board (SSB) just cross-posted my weekend commentary on Anna Duggar and the scapegoating that "spread your legs theology" doles out to women.    Southern Baptist Convention President Ronnie Floyd swiftly proved my thesis on Sunday.I read that the Dugggars "identify" with Floyd's church where their daughter Jill married, though I understand that they often choose to worship at home as well.  By the time that the church deleted the online podcast of Floyd's sermon, the lion's share of the material had been reproduced by a host of journalists and bloggers, noting the manner in which their religion blames wives … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Part 1 – Children Are Foolish?

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by Debi Pearl from No Greater Joy Magazine - Foolishness or WisdomEditor's note: Jaw dropped reading this first paragraph. Debi's calling kids names again, this time the child that needs to be treated with a little loving care is suddenly the 'whining sissy'?  This piece is so full of name calling, blaming and shaming that I'm breaking it into parts for NLQ. Isn't fooling around doing the things Debi describes something all children do sometimes and a normal part of childhood play? When did it become a sin to be a normal child? … [Read more...]

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Answering “Preparing To Be A Help Meet” – Does An Immodest Culture Allow For Less Modesty?

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Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical, rational and the best possible solution, in other words 18 … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Are Women in Law Enforcement Wrong?

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by John Piper from Ask Pastor John at Desiring God - Should Women Be Police Officers?Editor's note: He never really answers the defining question. Instead he tells the same tale he did a few weeks earlier about women civil engineers and direct/indirect command so I left out that part since it's an almost word for word exact same thing he already said. Instead here's his definitions of manhood and womanhood as they are in the home and workplace. It's still confusing, sounding like he's ready to say women should not be officers of the law but waffling around it instead of honestly saying what he thinks. What do you think? … [Read more...]

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News: Josh Duggar in Rehab – Vyckie Garrison in People Magazine

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TMZ is reporting that Josh Duggar has now gone away into a long term rehab in order to try and deal with his issues. No word where or if it is a legitimate counseling facility or if it's some gimcrack fundamentalist Christian 'do construction work while you repent place.'Also Anna Duggar will receive counseling. Again, no word on if this is real and useful counseling or shame and blame based Bill Gothard style counseling that does more harm than good. Will update this page as more news arrives. … [Read more...]

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