A Little Housekeeping….

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There will be no updates between tomorrow noonish and Friday afternoon. Patheos is doing an upgrade on all platforms in that time. Regular postings will resume on Saturday so don't freak out if there's nothing new between Thursday morning and late Friday. Here's hoping this improves user and admin experiences!Carry on..You should be able to continue to comment on posts whie this upgrade is taking place.Comments open below NLQ Recommended Reading … Quiverfull: Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement by Kathryn Joyce 13:24 - A Story of Faith and Obsession by M Dolon Hickmon<A H … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Making Them Obey?

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by Nancy Campbell from Above Rubies - How Can They Do It? I know, dear mothers, it's easier said than done to teach our children to obey. One mother wrote that her young daughter flatly refuses to obey her! What on earth can we do? We are not dealing with robots. Do you sometimes wish they were robots who would just do everything you asked? Instead, we are dealing with flesh and blood. Yes, I said the word, flesh. … [Read more...]

Conformity is Next to Godliness

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by Kristen Rosser cross posted from her blog Wordgazer's WordsMy first roommate after I left college was a good friend and a lovely person.  She still is both of those things, though she lives far away.  But there was one dynamic to our relationship in those early roommate-days that wasn't all that lovely.  We haven't talked about it, but I think she'd shake her head in amusement and chagrin as much as I do now.You see, she was very skilled, even back then when we were young, in the domestic arts.  She could whip together a dinner for six people without turning a hair.  She could make jams and jellies.  She could sew beautifully-- she eventually made her own wedding dress, and then my … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Patriarchy Rulez?

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by Free Northerner cross posted from his blog Free Northerner - Patriarchy = Civilization Patriarchy is civilization. Civilization is patriarchy.The two concepts are indistinguishable, differing only in emphasis.Any time someone says patriarchy, they are, whether consciously or not, referring to civilization. … [Read more...]

Mike Huckabee, Immigration and Evangelical Compassion

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by Libby Anne cross posted from her blog Love, Joy, FeminismI haven’t said anything about the tens of thousands of unaccompanied children entering the U.S. from the countries south of Mexico, but I’ve been following the story. I’ve never quite understood why American evangelicals are so anti-immigration and pro-borders. And I say this as someone who grew up in an evangelical family solidly involved in conservative politics. But border issues were never my thing. The first year I participated in homeschool speech and debate in high school, the topic was illegal immigration. My partner and I developed a plan that involved giving jobs training and other services to immigrations, transfo … [Read more...]

Preparing To Be A Help Meet: The Priest Part 2

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by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideIn this installment, Debi struggles to create 'down sides' for the Steady/Priestly Man.  She manages to find one problem that might cause actual problems and makes-up three others that are really tame compared to the hell of being married to a Prophet or a King.Oh, but Debi does figure out how to rag on women. … [Read more...]

Lourdes, Lifeboats and Bounded Choice: The Complicated Progress of Exiting Totalist Groups: Part 2

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by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from Spiritual Sounding BoardRead Part 1 first...***Cindy Kunsman explains how Doug Phillips relegated Vision Forum acolytes to bounded choice – a dynamic only intensified for Lourdes Torres-Manteufel by alleged sex abuse.***Note from Julie Anne:  This is Part 2 of Cindy Kunsman’s series on Bounded Choice.  In this series she is helping us to understand the process people go through when they have lived in a high-controlling religious system as was Lourdes Torres-Manteufel’s experience.  Lourdes’ and Cindy’s story can help shed light in our own experience or the experience of someone we know and love.  Having this understanding is pivotal in t … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Defrauding Your Spouse?

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by Michael Pearl from his book 'Holy Sex' at the 80% mark on the Kindle since Michael didn't provide page counts for the electronic version. "Defraud ye not one the other...[To withhold sexual satisfaction from one's partner is to defraud]... except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency" (1 Corinthians 7:5) … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Only Place is in ‘The Home’?

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by Emily from her blog Raising Homemakers - So You Think You Should Go To Work? Maybe you know the Scriptures that clearly state that the woman’s job is to be a keeper at home, but you think to yourself…”Well…I can have a job and be a keeper at home!”  Well, if you are away from home, at a job, you cannot be keeping the home.  You simply will not be there to keep it if you are at a job. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: A Girl’s ‘List’?

featuring Debi Pearl talking about her book Preparing To Be A Help MeetQUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull honestly and thoughtfully. … [Read more...]

Lourdes, Lifeboats, and Bounded Choice: The Complicated Process of Exiting Totalist Groups Part 1

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by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from The Spiritual Sounding BoardAfter reading the account of the Lourdes Torres-Manteufel abuse by Vision Forum founder, Doug Phillips, Cindy Kunsman reflects on her own sex abuse story.Note from Julie Anne:  I remember talking to Cindy Kunsman around the time the Lourdes Torres-Manteufel lawsuit was made public. Lourdes’ story greatly affected her in a personal way, reminding her of her own sexually abusive childhood. This sometimes happens when someone else’s story reminds us of our own painful experience. Statistics tell us that there are a lot of people who have been sexually abused. If you have been sexually abused, this may be a sensitive subject f … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Cling on to That Husband All the Time!

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by Nancy Campbell from Above Rubies - Who Is Your Best Friend? When you have an opportunity to go out to enjoy yourself, who would you rather go with? Some girlfriends? Or your husband? We will always want to go with our best friend, won't we?In Titus 2:4 the older women are exhorted to teach the young women to "love their husbands." The Greek word used here is not agape (God's divine love which goes beyond the love of man). It is not "eros" which is sexual love. We need to experience both these in our marriage, but the one God uses in this passage is "philandros." This is a friendly, affectionate love. … [Read more...]


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