Answering “Preparing To Be A Help Meet” – Is Hugging A Stumbling Block To Guys?

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Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical, rational and the best possible solution, in other words 18 … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 1 – Stand By Your Man When He Becomes Obsessed?

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by Shalom Pearl Brand from No Greater Joy - Preparing for His ObsessionEditor's note: Remember when Debi Pearl confused hobbies and interests with obsessions? Her daughter Shalom is carrying on in the same vein of misunderstanding and reenforcing Debi's message of supporting your man's hobbies and not having any of your own. … [Read more...]

What One IFB Apologist Thinks of People Who Claim They Were Abused

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by Bruce Gerencer cross posted from his blog The Life and Times of Bruce GerencserWhen Jack Schaap, former pastor of First Baptist Church in Hammond, Indiana, now a convicted felon,  was accused of having a sexual relationship with a teenager in his church, apologists for the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) church movement and the Hyles/Schaap crime family came out in force to defend their own. They told me things like:He is a man of God and he wouldn’t/couldn’t do such a thing The girl was a whore The girl seduced him The girl was “almost” of age If Schaap hadn’t taken her across the State line, the sex would have been consensual … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: No Divorce For Christians Ever Because It Causes God’s Judgment?

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by Colin Campbell from Meat For Men - Beautiful Attitude ContinuedEditor's note: Colin seems to think that every single thing that doesn't line up with his personal interpretation of the Bible is going to cause God to thrash and trash the earth and all it's inhabitants rather soon. Somehow I get the feeling that he really wants that final judgment to happen as soon as possible. There is so much in the world of Quiverfull theology that wants others judged and throws shade on anything or anyone not part of the select group. What a way to live! … [Read more...]

Cindy Schaap, Daughter of Jack Hyles, Divorces Convicted Felon Jack Schaap

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by Bruce Gerencser cross posted from his blog The Life and Times of Bruce GerencserAs most of you know, Jack Schaap, former pastor of First Baptist Church, Hammond, Indiana, is serving a 12 year sentence in federal prison for having sexual relations with a minor. (a girl who was a member of the church and Schaap was counseling her)  For more information on Jack Schaap, please read the Chicago Magazine article, Let Us Prey: Big Trouble at First Baptist Church. You can also read the letters Schaap sent to his victim here. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Womb With A View?

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by Nancy Campbell of Above Rubies - God-Ordained DestinyEditor's note: Occasionally Nancy will reinforce her message of have as many babies as possible by linking it to some obscure scripture that mentions the word 'womb' followed by claiming that means it stands for everyone all of the time because it is the Word of God. This is more of that. In just three short paragraphs she mentions the word 'Womb' no less than eight times. What about all those disappeared adopted Liberian children of hers? Were they not also precious and called forth by God from a womb? … [Read more...]

Boiling The Frog – When Churches Turn Into Dangerous Cults

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by Suzanne Titkemeyer cross posted from her blog What Would Roger Sterling Do?I'm going to ask you to stop and read this first before proceeding onto my story of how weird the church and I got towards the end - The Seven Signs You're in a Cult in The Atlantic MagazineGot it? Yep.What happened was sort of like that old beloved in Christianity false story about putting the frog in a big pot of water and the frog not realizing till it was too late that he was being boiled alive. Our church turning into a cult happened a lot like that. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Picking Your Sexuality?

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by Clint Echols - pastor First Baptist Church of Zeeland, Michigan - from Raw Story - Michigan Pastors: Being gay is an 'abomination' like being an 'axe murderer'Editor's note: why is it that the Evangelical and Fundamentalist Church cannot seem to understand that sexuality isn't necessarily a 'choice', like picking out a pair of pants or buying a particular type of yogurt. It's not that simple, no matter how much they may wish it or proclaim it. … [Read more...]

The Church’s Obsession With ‘Leadership’

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by Living Liminal from her blog Living LiminalAll the bullying and abuse I experienced in my ex-church revolved around the question of leadership and hierarchy. Who was in control. Who was 'over' whom. Who was top dog.Eventually, it became evident that the board of reference had covertly told elder J that he should be in top position and he was more than happy to agree with that. Of course, all this was backed up by God himself!But apparently God changed his mind (but only after people's lives had already been torn apart by this issue) and J ended up leaving to start his own 'church', presumably so he could really be the leader. … [Read more...]

Not Quoting Quiverfull: Train Up A Child?

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by Mark Harper from SuperChurch.Com - The Big Lie Evangelicals Tell Christian Parents … [Read more...]

My Level of Commitment Cannot Exceed Yours

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by Ellen cross posted from her blog When Church HurtsA few nights ago, one of the folks from our former church called.  Not to ask us how we are. Not to find out why they don’t see us around anymore.  Not to ask if we would like to get together.They called to ask us for . . .  Deep breath . . .Money.And I’m thinking, “Wow.”Maybe if you cared just a little. Just enough to say, “We miss you and would like to see you sometime.”Theirs is a noble cause.  Though, I must say, I was a bit surprised that they called asking us for money since theirs is a wealthy family.  So why ask for our help?  Especially when our son has already told them that we are in the midst of helping o … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: What Happened to the IFB?

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by David Parton from What Happened To The Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Movement? - What Happened To Us?Editor's note: While parts of the IFB fall clearly in the harmful Quiverfull theology I have to give this man credit. He's asking the hard questions as someone in the IFB movement. Too bad other flavors of religion in Quiverfull are not asking and examining the same question. It can only be positive when those involved in the more cult-like versions of Christianity start critically thinking about why it doesn't work. What questions do you think Quiverfull churches should start asking? … [Read more...]


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