Quoting Quiverfull: Womb With A View?

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by Nancy Campbell of Above Rubies - God-Ordained DestinyEditor's note: Occasionally Nancy will reinforce her message of have as many babies as possible by linking it to some obscure scripture that mentions the word 'womb' followed by claiming that means it stands for everyone all of the time because it is the Word of God. This is more of that. In just three short paragraphs she mentions the word 'Womb' no less than eight times. What about all those disappeared adopted Liberian children of hers? Were they not also precious and called forth by God from a womb? … [Read more...]

Boiling The Frog – When Churches Turn Into Dangerous Cults

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by Suzanne Titkemeyer cross posted from her blog What Would Roger Sterling Do?I'm going to ask you to stop and read this first before proceeding onto my story of how weird the church and I got towards the end - The Seven Signs You're in a Cult in The Atlantic MagazineGot it? Yep.What happened was sort of like that old beloved in Christianity false story about putting the frog in a big pot of water and the frog not realizing till it was too late that he was being boiled alive. Our church turning into a cult happened a lot like that. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Picking Your Sexuality?

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by Clint Echols - pastor First Baptist Church of Zeeland, Michigan - from Raw Story - Michigan Pastors: Being gay is an 'abomination' like being an 'axe murderer'Editor's note: why is it that the Evangelical and Fundamentalist Church cannot seem to understand that sexuality isn't necessarily a 'choice', like picking out a pair of pants or buying a particular type of yogurt. It's not that simple, no matter how much they may wish it or proclaim it. … [Read more...]

The Church’s Obsession With ‘Leadership’

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by Living Liminal from her blog Living LiminalAll the bullying and abuse I experienced in my ex-church revolved around the question of leadership and hierarchy. Who was in control. Who was 'over' whom. Who was top dog.Eventually, it became evident that the board of reference had covertly told elder J that he should be in top position and he was more than happy to agree with that. Of course, all this was backed up by God himself!But apparently God changed his mind (but only after people's lives had already been torn apart by this issue) and J ended up leaving to start his own 'church', presumably so he could really be the leader. … [Read more...]

Not Quoting Quiverfull: Train Up A Child?

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by Mark Harper from SuperChurch.Com - The Big Lie Evangelicals Tell Christian Parents … [Read more...]

My Level of Commitment Cannot Exceed Yours

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by Ellen cross posted from her blog When Church HurtsA few nights ago, one of the folks from our former church called.  Not to ask us how we are. Not to find out why they don’t see us around anymore.  Not to ask if we would like to get together.They called to ask us for . . .  Deep breath . . .Money.And I’m thinking, “Wow.”Maybe if you cared just a little. Just enough to say, “We miss you and would like to see you sometime.”Theirs is a noble cause.  Though, I must say, I was a bit surprised that they called asking us for money since theirs is a wealthy family.  So why ask for our help?  Especially when our son has already told them that we are in the midst of helping o … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: What Happened to the IFB?

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by David Parton from What Happened To The Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Movement? - What Happened To Us?Editor's note: While parts of the IFB fall clearly in the harmful Quiverfull theology I have to give this man credit. He's asking the hard questions as someone in the IFB movement. Too bad other flavors of religion in Quiverfull are not asking and examining the same question. It can only be positive when those involved in the more cult-like versions of Christianity start critically thinking about why it doesn't work. What questions do you think Quiverfull churches should start asking? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: God Freed The Slaves?

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by Thomas S. Dunn from the Leesburg, Virginia City Council - Washington Post - Leesburg council member claims God - not government - ended slaveryEditor's note: This was from a public meeting about the formation of the Leesburg Diversity Commission and Mr. Dunn's misguided remarks were in response to those of the local NAACP rep. There's a great deal of slavery in the Bible, including instructions on how masters are to treat their slaves and how slaves are supposedly to behave. But Dunn ignores that to claim that God ended slavery in America. Leesburg has a huge evangelical quiverfull Christian community and is the home of Intercessors for America, Patrick Henry College and the offices … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Justin Harris – Adoption For Political Gain?

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from an interview by 30-minute interview with Drew Petrimoulx, posted March 6 as a Web extra at Arkansasmatters.com. Harris is answering a question about whether he adopted the girls for political gain:Editor's note: Justin Harris isn't doing himself any favors in this interview. This should be the point where his attorney advised him to just shut the hell up. … [Read more...]

Answering ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’ – Can Guys View Attractive Girls As Just Friends?

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Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical, rational and the best possible solution, in other words 18 … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: God Hates R Rated Movies?

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by Kristen Clark from Girl Defined - Why Watching People Make Out Should Be AwkwardEditor's note: One thing you can count on from the Quiverfull/CPM/Fundamentalist movement is that they will keep moving the bar, changing the rules, until everything except reading your Bible and praying is 'sinful' This piece basically says if you are not uncomfortable watching a movie scene of people deeply kissing, much less having sex, then there is something 'wrong' with you in your spiritual life. Yeah, keep moving that line and telling yourself you are hole-y, err, holy. It really is all about sex in that world. Seems like the author is coming very close to calling passionate kissing pornography. … [Read more...]

What Does Christian Egalitarian Marriage Look Like?

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by Kristen Rosser cross posted from her blog Wordgazer's Words originally published March, 2012I walked into a Christian book store the other day, and happened to look at the section on marriage.  And guess what?  Every book on the shelf was some variation on "husbands, here's how to lead your wives/wives, here's how to submit to your husband's authority."  Not one book on the shelves said, "Here's how to be co-leaders together of your home and family.  Here's how to live in mutuality as best friends and partners, deferring to one another in love." … [Read more...]


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