Preparing To Be A Help Meet: The Prophet Part 4a

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by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideIn this chapter, we get a series of stories and anecdotes about what living with a Prophet/Visionary Man is like.  I am certain 90% of these stories come from Debi's actual life with Mike Pearl...and that's depressing.I'm just going to go sequentially from the beginning of the chapter where Debi has spoken about how an unbalanced Prophet/Visionary Man can get the whole family upset over issues. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Anger is Always Wrong?

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One of the ongoing themes throughout the Duggar girls book is that anger is dangerous and to be avoided at all costs.  Keep in control even when starting to experience anger (which they seem to think no one has the right to actually be angry) is paramount. They talk about Michelle whispering when getting angry and how you should make sure any guy you're in courtship with doesn't get angry easy.Makes me wonder what they thought of Jesus throwing the money changers out of the temple. Did they think Jesus was politely tiptoeing around saying, 'Sorry, old chap, but you can't do that here. sorry I'm knocking your stuff around. Have a nice day!' … [Read more...]

It’s Life Jim, But Not As We Knew It

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by Living Liminal cross posted from her blog Living LiminalWe've reached a milestone.It's been one and a half years since my husband and I decided we couldn't take it any more.18 months since we officially said, "No More!"No more pain. No more abuse.And we walked away from life as we'd known it.Away from 'going to church'. Away from 'doing' church. Away from an institution that used to mean safety, security, religious observances - but  had come to represent wounding and rejection and judgment and grief and fear and heartbreak and loss. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: It’s Not Called a Uterus?

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As a companion with yesterdays Quoting Quiverfullby Nancy Campbell from Above Rubies - What Do You Call Your Womb? Some time ago I asked if readers would like to share different words they use for a baby growing in the "womb" or meanings of the word "womb." Here are the ones that were sent to me:“chalice” “home of compassion” (The Arabic, Turkish, and Hebrew word for “womb” is the same word as mercy or compassion) … [Read more...]

Stages of Leaving a Diseased Culture (Considering Homeschooling)

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by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from her blog Under Much GraceLeaving a “worldview” like the high demand end of Christian homeschooling usually happens in stages because we're trained to defend our Sacred Science at all costs. Sometimes we get stuck. And sometimes, we don't realize that we're only half way out.Some of the elements of the belief system, that worldview's sacred cows, are easy to give up. Some lead to our disillusionment. Some created pain for us while living fully according to the worldview. Those are easy to give up. We're usually relieved. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Wait, What? The Womb Creates Our Emotions?

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Remember when NLQ used to use a dropped coffee cup emblem to represent the administrator's reaction to much of what was posted in Quoting Quiverfull? Today deserves a fleet of dropped coffee cups in reaction to Nancy Campbell's words about the womb. Here's a mushroom cloud of exploded coffee to represent my reaction posting this.by Nancy Campbell from Above Rubies - The Blessing of Your Womb Genesis 49:25 talks about the "blessings of the breasts, and of the womb." Blessings? Yes, God says they are His blessings to us as women. But they are ultimately His blessings to the whole world for without them mankind would come to a screeching halt! … [Read more...]

I Love My Country, But I Can’t be Patriotic Anymore

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 by Kristen Rosser cross posted from her blog Wordgazer's WordsThis Fourth of July, I have a confession to make.I used to wake up every Independence Day morning with "God Bless America" on my lips.  I used to feel a thrill of excitement and reverence when I faced the flag and pledged allegiance, when I put my hand over my heart and sang along with The Star-Spangled Banner.I still say the Pledge.  I still put my hand over my heart, and I still sing the National Anthem. I still love America. … [Read more...]

Happy 4th of July: Why We All Need To Get Out and Vote: Quoting Quiverfull

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Since it's the 4th and we're all busy grilling or whatever today's posting is an open thread to talk about whatever you'd like and will be today's only post. Enjoy the day and be truly terrified by the political vision of the Duggar Family. Good reason to go out and vote in every election. Imagine a country run only by the morals of Bill Gothard and the Duggars.by the Duggar girls pages 181 through 182 from "Growing Up Duggar" Some people think Christians should stay out of the political arena, but we strongly disagree. Our family believes faith and politics should go hand in hand, and we've seen countless examples of how that happens. For example, earlier this year, the Arkansas … [Read more...]

Christian Reconstruction, ATI, Abuse, and Submisson: Modesty and Lust Part 7

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by SJ Reidhead cross posted from her blog The Pink FlamingoThis is the response to the comment I submitted, dealing with the article about censoring cowboy culture.  Stephanus Blignaut is a missionary in South Africa.  In my family, we have a very soft spot for missionaries, especially those in Africa.  During the late 1940s my  uncle and his wife were missionaries to Sudan.  His oldest son was born there.  As long as he lived, my uncle always had a special love for Africa and the people.  He came to believe, though, that simply telling people about Christ was useless, unless you first gave them food, medicine, clean water, and a safe place to live.  Once their needs were met, then they c … [Read more...]

Preparing To Be A Help Meet: The Prophet Part 3

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by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideLast time, I gathered up all of the general descriptions of Prophet / Visionary Men that Debi sprinkled through Chapter 3.  Now, we get to move on to the specific examples of what life with a Prophet/Visionary Man is like according to Debi."The Prophet type will make a great boyfriend because he will focus totally on his sweetie.  He will be very romantic, giving you flowers and gifts.  If you catch the heart of a Prophet you will be his consuming passion, his greatest challenge, his dream come true. "In other words, the Prophet is in love with being in love with you.  That's not a great foundation for marriage. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: All Syncopated Rhythm Glorifies the Devil?

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by the Duggar girls on pages 162-163 of their book "Growing Up Duggar" Clearly, if a song's lyrics are glorifying sensuality, immorality, disrespect, violence, suicide, or the use of drugs and alcohol, we have good reason to avoid it. These things are often spoken of or hinted at in the lines of country music, but if we were to point to one genre, it would be rock 'n' roll and its variations such as hard rock and heavy metal. We avoid these types of music altogether. Since its beginnings in the 1950s, this music's main goal and purpose have been to promote every one of the issues we want to avoid. A heavy backbeat and words being sung in a breathy and sensual voice--- and even the style of … [Read more...]

Cyberstalking by clergy

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 from Orthodox-Christian.com reposted with permission (Editor's note: While this article is about stalking laws in the state of Illinois most states do have in  place very similar anti-stalking laws. Check with your specific jurisdiction for what laws apply in your state.)Cyberstalking is a nightmare, no matter who is doing it to you. It’s always bad, but I think it’s really “sick and twisted” when it’s done by people who are supposed to be religious leaders. You probably already know that some churches and groups are cults in disguise. Sometimes cult escapees find that the leaders don’t want to let go of them. … [Read more...]


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