It’s Not That Complicated: Part 2 Chapter 4

by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideAll quoted sections of the book are in blueThis book does have some fun side-effects.  My sister-in-law offered to lend me any and all books from her house to stop me from continuing to read this book.  The offer was tempting, but inflicting this book on my family is sweet.  (Reading chunks's a twisted pleasure for me.) Well, we get a glimpse into the teenage Botkin sisters. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Get Over Your Selfish Lack of Desire For Your Husband?

by Larry Solomon from Biblical Gender Roles - I Was Never Attracted to My Husband Does God Want Me to Fake it? - no links to this because Do Not is still down.Editor's note: Larry has been very busy lately, writing columns about how women cannot have it all, if women wearing pants is Biblical and all manner of political posts supporting Donald Trump and putting down John Kasich. I'm only quoting this one outrageous piece where he compares sexual attraction to food preferences. We all know how well it works out when some fundamentalist decides to compare sex to food, don't we? … [Read more...]

Fear and Crusades

by Living Liminal cross posted from her blog Living LiminalRecently, I left this comment on Jory Micah's blog post regarding Mark Driscoll's unhealthy teaching on submission: "The whole ‘biblical submission’ teaching is absolutely toxic! Despite the fact that it is a residue of the shepherding movement (whose leaders have long since repented of their teaching) men are still peddling versions of this crap because it panders to their egos and means they get to be ‘over’ others. It damages lives and is the antithesis of Jesus’s teachings. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Giving Gifts Dulls Appreciation For ‘Everlasting Gifts’?

by Melissa from Progressive Quiverfull - Reason for the SeasonEditor's note: This is another distinctive of so many Quiverfull or Fundamentalist families, the belief that celebrating holidays the way everyone else does is somehow a sin. While everyone is free in this country to do as they please in regards to holidays and religions sometimes the reasons they do it strain incredulity. Commercialism may be rampant in some holidays but there are better reasons to not participate than that. We're only a week or so from St. Patrick's Day and Easter is at the end of the month. How did your holidays change going into Quiverfull and after you've left? What do you think? … [Read more...]

The Tommy Trauma Trap and Survivor Wars

by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from her blog Under Much GraceAs always images by Cindy Kunsman of Under Much Grace used with permission A few weeks ago, Dwayne Walker graciously allowed me to post his views on what he calls the “survivor wars” among those who protest the abuses of the Independent Fundamental Baptists. Sadly, I see the same kind of vying for the alpha survivor status among many bloggers who write about spiritual abuse within the Patriarchy/Homeschooling/Quiverfull Movement. (Dwayne addresses the conflicts among former Independent Fundamental Baptists, abbreviated IFB.) … [Read more...]

Answering ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’ – Spiritual Mask Prevents Husbands?

Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical,  rational and the best possible solution, in other words 1 … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Modesty to be ‘Modest’ or be Different?

by Melissa of Progressive Quiverfull - Reason For The SeasonEditor's note: This is a blogger that only started blogging in December and is a very recent convert to the Quiverfull lifestyle. She's trying to claim she's doing it right and most others are just too fundy. I was thinking yesterday about the reasons that people give for dressing modestly after getting some dirty looks and mumbled 'immodest' pushback while being out running errands dressed in boots, leggings, a long tunic and a knee length sweater vest. It was someone I used to be friends with when I was QF. She wore a jean skirt that fell exactly between her knees and ankles, a sweater and flats. She looked miserable and was … [Read more...]

Just Click Off The Site If We Offend You – Answering Melissa Progressive Quiverfull

by Suzanne Titkemeyer admin at NLQ and cross posted from her blog Every Breaking WaveUpdated 7:00 pm est: Melissa has made her blog private so you will not see anything if you click on the links in the piece below. I have one of her last postings saved on my blog and there will be bits and pieces I've saved for our Quoting Quiverfull feature. I guess she's taking a mental health break/time out from her critics.Foreword: Normally I do not like to clutter up NLQ with responses to critics or too many explanations as to why we do things a certain way. But this week there arose a situation with a new Quiverfull blogger that does need to be addressed. Here it is. I will be quoting this … [Read more...]

Abandonment and Growing Flowers on Dark Islands

by Heather Doney cross posted from her blog Becoming Worldly I was afraid. Of rejection, of being alone, of looking easy to say no to, part of an odd crew that doesn’t fit and crumbles easily. Of being the wounded fish in a tank of sharks. Of struggling with money and jobs and affording basic necessities and having nobody there. I was afraid of original sin, lack of success, my own frailty, little mistakes and big ones, of not getting things perfect enough to not be treated bad. Of writing the email and seeing the typo that outwardly proves I’m a moron and my ideas are crap, only noticed after hitting the send button. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Dads Can Influence Children to Sexual Sin?

by Stacy McDonald from Your Sacred Calling - The Beauty of Chastity: Honoring MarriageEditor's note: While it's good that the author is holding men accountable for honoring marriage and keeping chaste it's a bit of a stretch for her to put the blame on a child turning out non-chaste on watching what daddy does. But does noticing that daddy like pretty women really cause becoming too sensual for the Evangelical Quiverfull household? The only scenarios I can think of that apply re the actions of a father is when men do less than optimal things like openly have affairs and don't hide it from their children or if daddy is constantly viewing porn or reading a magazine like Hustler in front of … [Read more...]

It’s Not That Complicated: Part 1 Chapter 4

by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideQuotes from the book are in blue.Onwards to Chapter Four!  The title of this delightful chapter is "Relationship Boot Camp- Back to Square One: How to Be a Sister to Your Real Brothers."Overarching Themes:Do NOT question us, lowly peons! … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: How to Kill Your Marriage?

by Stacy McDonald from Your Sacred Calling - How to Tear Down Your Own HouseEditor's note: Stacy has a list, and she's checking it twice, of things that kill your marriage. Granted, some of those things aren't good to do in marriage but if there is one thing life has taught me is that no two marriages are the same. What works for one is not going to necessarily work for another. There is no formula. Not even Stacy has a lock on it. Does anyone really still watch soap operas any longer? … [Read more...]