News: Gloriavale – New Zealand Patriarchal Quiverfull Cult

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by Suzanne TitkemeyerOne of the British newspapers, the Daily Mail, recently ran an article about a religious group in New Zealand that lives entirely by the New Testament in isolation from society. They call themselves "Gloriavale"Their version of Christianity seems to have more in common with some of the Fundamentalist Ladder Day Saints than most Fundamentalist Christian groups. One of the big distinctions that runs through Gloriavale and FLDS is that a group of 12 men, all church elders, decide who will marry who. No choice is given to the potential brides and grooms. Many times the matched are based mostly on how distantly related they are to avoid birth defects from inbreeding. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Fear and Readiness?

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by Vaughn Ohlman from True Love Doesn't Wait - Fear and Readiness It is a funny difference between conservatives and liberals that conservatives seem to always question liberals ideas, and liberals question conservatives motives. Indeed, when a liberal makes a movie about an evil conservative the conservative is almost never doing what the conservative says he wants to do (ie he is a hypocrite[1]) whereas a conservative movie will often show liberals living up to their stated ideals (which just happen to be wrong, immoral, and lead to a deranged and deprived society). … [Read more...]

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Good Intentions Do NOT Success Make

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by Joe Sands cross posted from his blog Incongruous CircumspectionVaughn Ohlman, the patriarch of the Ohlman family - literally, loves to tell the world how we have it all wrong.  How marriage in the hands of "young people" is the reason why marriage doesn't work.  That, if only we followed the ancient Jewish story of ole' Abe and his son, Isaac, all marriages would either be brilliantly perfect, or mostly work. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Giving Our Daughters to the Imperfect?

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by Vaughn Ohlman of True Love Doesn't Wait - Giving our daughters to imperfect young men As harsh and unfeeling as it sounds to our ears, a daughter is not seen in Scripture as a rose to be hidden under glass, but a gift to be given. Her fruitfulness is frequently mentioned, her delicate sensibilities less so. She is seen as at her best when rising to a difficult task, not when tenderly sheltered. And the entire focus of Scripture is not on her father, but on her husband. How then can it be the role of that father to refuse to give her to that husband? … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Practicing For Divorce?

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by Vaughn Ohlman of Persevero News - Practice For DivorceOur modern society… including the church, has implemented forms of getting married that are, literally, practice for divorce. Oh, they don’t go by that name, but they follow that pattern, they implement those principles. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Parents Choosing Spouses For Adult Children?

QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the … [Read more...]

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A Love That Multiplies ~ The Duggar's New Book

by HopewellRegular readers of this blog know that I watch TLC's "19 Kids and Counting--" a reality show featuring the family of Jim-B0b and Michelle Duggar. I make some people very happy with my blog posts on this family and get flames from others. Such is life!! So, when I spotted a used copy of their new book so I could "buy used and save the difference," just like the Duggar's recommend, I knew I'd have to review it here!Like everything Duggar there is much to admire here: some good tips about listening to your children, listening to your spouse, spending time as a family, spending time in God's word, gathering together with other believers, living debt free, controlling your anger, … [Read more...]

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49 Character Qualities of the Duggars: A Report Card

[Note: The point of this post is not about passing judgment on the Duggar family. The question is, does the lifestyle they endorse actually do what they say it will? Is it the perfect formula for a godly family? Or is what we’re seeing just a set of normal people striving within a very difficult way of living?This post examines the Duggars’ own lives within the paradigm they themselves endorse. Given that we only see what our televisions allow us to-- does what we can see, reflect the image held up to us? And if it does not, how can we be sure about what we can‘t see?No one expects the Duggars to be perfect. But that is not the question. The real question is: are they really showing us t … [Read more...]

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Debt-Free Duggars ~ Pt. 1: How Quiverfull Couples Support All Those Kids!

by HopewellThe Duggar Income Stream [minus TLC] Before TLC and their reality TV show offer came on the scene, Jim-Bob and Michelle Duggar were already on their way to financial security—a situation not normally found in homes with no college-educated adult. But, like the people profiled in the book the Millionaire Next Door, Jim-Bob and Michelle have always lived BELOW their means and have always had common sense about purchases. They also share a vision for the type of family life they wanted to lead. While Jim-Bob did hold a job, and a mortgage, at the time they married he soon realized this was not a sensible way to live. His love of buying cars, fixing them up himself, and reselling th … [Read more...]

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Quiverfull Daughters: The Making of a Helpmeet

TLC's 19 Kids & Counting: The Duggar Family on How To Prepare For Courtship & Marriageby Hopewell“Helpmeet” is such an odd-sounding word to modern ears! But it resonates well in the lingo of the King James Bible. Girls born to Quiverfull families begin their training for the life’s calling as a Helpmeet [aka wife and homemaker] almost at birth.Girls are born for one and only one reason: to serve a husband. In that capacity, as his helpmeet, she will bear and raise his children, feed as many children as God sends on whatever income he earns, may raise a garden and animals or run a home-based business [with his approval], may home birth and will certainly homeschool all of her ch … [Read more...]

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