Quoting Quiverfull: The Role of the Godly Help Meet is to Receive Chastisement?

by Biblical Gender Roles from Biblical Gender Roles.com - The Heresy of Skip Moen and His Book "Guardian Angel"Editor's note: This is the long rambling post of BGR where he says women are to 'bare' children and a lot of ridiculous things about the roles of women in the lives of their husbands. He seems to be edging closer to Christian Domestic Discipline here too. What is it with people thinking that they must redefine common terms used in the church and quibble about meanings? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Elsie Dinsmore Should Have Been Beaten?

by Susan Zakula from Butter and Honey - Elsie Dinsmore--An EnigmaEditor's note: While I haven't personally read the Elsie Dinsmore books I know that many of you have and that the series is a favorite in the world of homeschooling and quiverfull. Several of our early writers have mentioned the Dinsmore books being the approved literature of their childhoods. So I was surprised to see Butter and Honey giving old Elsie such a harsh treatment. Seems like if you're not reading Nancy Campbell, Debi Pearl or the Bible you're reading forbidden literature, including poor harmless Elsie Dinsmore. What a world of fine literature the Butter and Honey ladies are missing out on! Yet again the answer … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Requiring Obedience?

by John Piper from his blog Desiring God - Parents, Require Obedience of Your ChildrenRescue from Foolish Parenting The defiance and laziness of unbelieving parents I can understand. I have biblical categories of the behavior of the spiritually blind. But the neglect of Christian parents perplexes me. What is behind the failure to require and receive obedience? I’m not sure. But it may be that these nine observations will help rescue some parents from the folly of laissez-faire parenting. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Don’t Allow Any Emotional Moments?

by Zsuzsanna Anderson of Are They All Yours? - Q & A Answers Part 2 How do you deal with (1) whining/complaining, (2) arguing with parental directions, (3) poor attiudes (sulking, etc.) in response to chores, food, parental decisions, etc., (4) tantrums. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Corporal Punishment?

by Zsuzsanna Anderson from her blog Are They All Yours? -Just Take Away Their Electronic Gadgets Another teacher in the classroom was having an issue with one of the students being disruptive in class. Exasperated, the teacher "punished" him by moving him somewhere else, to which the student defiantly replied, "If you move me, I am just going to talk wherever you move me to!" … [Read more...]

Parenting & the Super Religious

by CaluluLatebloomer from the NLQ Spiritual Abuse Survivor Blogs Network has written an excellent series right now based upon reviewing the parenting advice in Reb Bradley's book 'Child Training Tips'  She's done an outstanding job on this topic and I have to admit it triggers me just a bit. Triggers some of my experiences back in the old church.During my years in Fundamentalism Evangelicalism I never encountered Reb Bradley's book. The one that was pushed upon me constantly was Michael and Debi Pearl's "To Train Up A Child". I read through it once, horror-struck by the suggestions in the book, finding it ridiculously harsh and thinking that raising your children like little obeying … [Read more...]

“Biblical” Parenting, Criticism #1: A Parent Who Assumes The Worst

by LatebloomerThe task of reviewing Reb Bradley's book "Child Training Tips" has been a lot more challenging than I expected.  First of all, where do I start when I disagree with almost every sentence that this book contains?  I can find almost no common ground on which to begin.  And how can I explain my reasons for disagreement when the very things that I see as horrifying are held up as admirable goals by the author?Because of these difficulties, I have decided that these posts will simply be a way for Present Me to explain to Past Me that this so-called "Biblical" parenting is damaging to individuals and relationships because it sacrifices all other virtues for the sake of au … [Read more...]

Westboro Baptist Church comment on No Longer Quivering: Judge who sentenced child abuser “clearly wasn’t spanked enough as a child”

by Vyckie GarrisonI just came across this graphic on Facebook. We recently had someone from Westboro Baptist Church post a hate-filled, bible-thumping comment on No Longer Quivering - guess we must be doing something right to have attracted WBC's attention. (◕‿◕✿) Dane County Judge Maryann Sumi sentenced Pastor Philip Caminiti to 2 years in prison for preaching the standard of God Almighty as spelled out in the scriptures. This unjust judge swung her judicial gavel at God and the clear teachings of the Bible on how to love one’s children: “He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.” (Proverbs 13:24). Judge Sumi called it conspiracy to commit ch … [Read more...]

Snipped! Part 6: The Fun Little Church

by Incongruous CircumspectionBill Gothard’s weekly marriage class was run by Pastor John Hartzell and his young protégé, Chuck Raichert in a little Independent Fundamental Baptist Church in Bloomington, Minnesota. Normandale Baptist was the name. The seminar was called Rebuilder’s and was all about loving Jesus Christ so much that your husband or wife simply rushed back into your arms and lived happily ever after. The only problem, it never worked that way. It merely created religious zombies with strict principles.Mama was one of these zombies. She would have hours of “conversation” with my dad over the phone. She never let him speak. You knew when he tried by the rise in the … [Read more...]

Update: Lori Wick, Christian Author Involved in Child Abuse Probe

There has been some resolution of last year's allegations of child abuse of children as young as two months old at the Black Earth, Wisconsin Aleithiea Baptist Church. Philip Caminiti, the former pastor of Aleitheia Bible Church of Black Earth Wisconsin was found guilty in March of conspiracy to commit child abuse. Yesterday he was sentenced to 2 years in prison and 6 years if probation. His probation stipulates that that during his probation term, Caminiti is not to have contact with the members of his church, though he is allowed contact with his wife, children, and grandchildren.Lori Wick and the others have yet to stand trial.Wisconsin State Journal: Black Earth pastor gets 2 … [Read more...]


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