Lourdes, Lifeboats, and Bounded Choice: The Complicated Process of Exiting Totalist Groups Part 4

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by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from Spiritual Sounding BoardObstacles that Second Generation Adults like Lourdes Torres-Manteufel must overcome when exiting threatening, high demand situations and groups like Doug Phillips’ Vision Forum “When we leave, we actually don’t have what we need to survive outside.” ~ Jill Mytton … [Read more...]

Lourdes, Lifeboats and Bounded Choice: The Complicated Progress of Exiting Totalist Groups: Part 2

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by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from Spiritual Sounding BoardRead Part 1 first...***Cindy Kunsman explains how Doug Phillips relegated Vision Forum acolytes to bounded choice – a dynamic only intensified for Lourdes Torres-Manteufel by alleged sex abuse.***Note from Julie Anne:  This is Part 2 of Cindy Kunsman’s series on Bounded Choice.  In this series she is helping us to understand the process people go through when they have lived in a high-controlling religious system as was Lourdes Torres-Manteufel’s experience.  Lourdes’ and Cindy’s story can help shed light in our own experience or the experience of someone we know and love.  Having this understanding is pivotal in t … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Only Place is in ‘The Home’?

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by Emily from her blog Raising Homemakers - So You Think You Should Go To Work? Maybe you know the Scriptures that clearly state that the woman’s job is to be a keeper at home, but you think to yourself…”Well…I can have a job and be a keeper at home!”  Well, if you are away from home, at a job, you cannot be keeping the home.  You simply will not be there to keep it if you are at a job. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Preparing Your Two Year Old For Marriage?

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by Scott Brown from The Marriage Blog -  Teaching Daughters Theology In the past, Jonathan Sides has spoken on “Preparing your Two-Year-Old for Marriage” at the NCFIC marriage retreat. He said that “the most important thing you can do to prepare your children for marriage is to teach them the gospel. This is the most important understanding in marriage.” … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: No Food Preferences Allowed For Children?

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by Serene Allison - Above Rubies Magazine -An Age Old Tradition P.S. Although I encourage joy and baby-steppin’ your children towards health, it is my opinion that we should not allow our children to be picky about their food. I believe that children have to be trained and even disciplined out of pickiness. It is the opposite of heaven to have to pick out the raisins or tomatoes or cut off the crusts for each individual child and have to suffer through a huge wobbly if you don’t. The fun comes in our health journey when pickiness is sent packin’. There is nothing worse than pickiness. Ugh! … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Lessons Learned From The Duggars?

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by Nathaniel Darnell from Persevero News - Three Lessons to Learn from Duggars' New Courtship Jessa Duggar is gone-a-courtin! The fifth oldest of the 20 Duggar children has begun a courtship with a young man named Ben Seewald, reports Yahoo!, and it appears the courtship will feature prominently in the family’s TV show 19 Kids and Counting. It’s a good thing the Duggars don’t seem to mind living in a house of glass because no doubt they are going to be getting a lot scrutiny as they look to give their first daughter away in marriage. … [Read more...]

Good Intentions Do NOT Success Make

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by Joe Sands cross posted from his blog Incongruous CircumspectionVaughn Ohlman, the patriarch of the Ohlman family - literally, loves to tell the world how we have it all wrong.  How marriage in the hands of "young people" is the reason why marriage doesn't work.  That, if only we followed the ancient Jewish story of ole' Abe and his son, Isaac, all marriages would either be brilliantly perfect, or mostly work. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Tools For Daughters?

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by Robin Brookshire from Ladies Against Feminism and her own blog Raising Homemakers When our daughters were little they had way too many toys – too many to count, actually.  But that started to change as our ideas about family economy and industry in the home changed.  Instead of buying toys, we began to invest in tools for our daughters, even at their young ages – tools that would help them cultivate interests, develop skills, and hopefully be a blessing to the home and economies of their future families. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Three Decades of Fertility?

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by Kelly of Generation Cedar - Mother Vision and Fertility: Inspired Beyond Today (Editor's note: Three Decades of Fertility is a new book out by Visionary Womanhood ministry to promote Quiverfull. This is what Kelly is promoting in this bit.)Three Decades of Fertility takes you on a journey of ten ordinary women surrendering to an extraordinary God. It’s a book about living counter-culturally, daring to sacrifice the approval of man for a greater reward: a life lived in the loving hands of a Creator-God, trusting His sovereign goodness in the grand scheme of our existence. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Defrauding Your (Future) Spouse?

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Von Ohlman at True Love Doesn't Wait - Defrauding Your (Future) SpouseOne of the most misunderstood words in the whole Betrothal/Courtship/Dating discussion is the word ‘defraud’. We have all grown up with a system (dating) that promotes something as a virtue that many of us are beginning to understand is a sin: the pre-covenantal romantic relationship between a boy and a girl. … [Read more...]


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