Quoting Quiverfull: Suffering is Totally Okay Because Glory?

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by John Piper from Desiring God - Your Suffering is Working For YouEditor's note: Some subtle martyrbating going on here, claiming that God is using your suffering on earth for your eternal good. This is one of the more poisonous teachings in evangelical Christianity and it really minimizes whatever it is that the suffering person is going through by reducing it to part of some formula. Not much empathy there, is it? … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Sex Is Only For Christians?

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by John Piper from Desiring God - Sex Belongs to BelieversEditor's note: Sounds like Piper thinks only married Christians, the 'right' kind of married Christians are the only ones that should be having any sort of sex. Good luck with that. I really really do not want to think about John Piper and sex. This is just another thing that Christians claim belongs only to believers, a sort of Christian privilege. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Adopting To Fill Quiver?

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by Bridget and Voddie Baucham at John Piper's Desiring God - Adoption Improved the Perfect Little FamilyEditor's note: Good example of someone doing kid collecting for quiverfull by using adoption. Guessing that perhaps Bridget had a tubal ligation after baby number two and wasn't a good candidate for the reversal surgery. Watching good trying to be quiverfull Christians struggle to fill their quiver and add children to the family can be as sad as what infertile couples go through. The pressure to conform is so strong in fundamentalist quiverfull churches and there are always people that will be either telling you that you're doing it wrong, or this is all due to some sin in your life if … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Making Jokes Leads To Infidelity?

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by Ben Reaoch from John Piper's Desiring God - Life Is Short, Love Your SpouseEditor's note: While most of the advice on how to avoid having an affair is reasonable and good this little bit about humor is just sort of out there. I'm always amazed at the situations that extreme Christians claim can cause you to fall into sin. If every single thing on this planet causes you to sin then what options do you have? Infidelity is a conscience choice, not some random event that happens to you without your permission. Man up about the reality of it please. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Grooming Your Pubes Is A Sin?

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by John Piper of The Counsel on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood as quoted by Newslo - Pastor John Piper: "Women Who Wax Their Private Parts Are Hurting God's Work"ETA: Apparently Newslo is another one of those 'satire' sites that aren't clearly marked as satire. Snopes says this quote is not from Piper, but they also says Newslo has a disclaimer but there isn't a clear one anywhere on the page I found this information. Who knows. Take this quote with a boulder of salt.Editor's note: Are  you kidding me? Piper is seeking to control what his followers do with their own personal private parts? These guys just love creating new rules and delving into minutia, don't they? In the rest of … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: We Are All Just Selfaholics?

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by Jon Bloom of Desiring God and as quoted by Ladies Against Feminism - Live Your Assignment!Editor's note: Word salad about sin and pride. No dressing. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: A Sermon Without Jesus is Just Like Gluten Free Bread?

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by Phillip Bethancourt from John Piper's Desiring God blog - Beware Gluten-Free PreachingEditor's note: Had to share this bad analogy that has created interesting debate on some online groups. The original author does not come right out and diss those that stick to a GF diet but he hints that it's a fad by comparing gluten free bread to sermons without Jesus. He also quotes Charles Spurgeon. He doesn't seem to realize that true wheat allergy is a thing, one of the top ten food allergies, and that there are a wide variety of health reasons people avoid wheat flour, but instead behaves as though not eating wheat bread is some sort of faddish failing. How many of us here have become … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Holding Hands With God More Pleasurable Than Lots and Lots of Kinky Sex?

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by John Piper at the 2015 Desiring God Conference as quoted by Bruce Gerencser at his blog The Life and Times of Bruce GerencserEditor's note: There is a video of this crazy statement being uttered by Piper at Gerencser's blog. Love how Piper proclaims how you can read your Bible and be highly educated in theology and not 'know' God. They seem to pile increasing amounts of qualifiers as to what and who constitutes someone that truly knows God. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Demons and Children?

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by Johnathan Parnell from John Piper's Desiring God blog - Parenting Means Wrestling DemonsEditor's note: There's just so much to dislike in Mr. Parnell's article on parenting and the demonic that it's hard to pick only one awful quote. The main message running through the piece seems to be that the devil is there to trip you up in parenting your children no matter what parenting style you pick and that demons hate children. Love your children, but don't love them too much seems to be the core message. … [Read more...]

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Quoting Quiverfull: Emotions and Thoughts Are Sin Too?

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by John Piper from Desiring God and Council on Biblical Manhood & Womanhood tweeted and then deleted. From Spiritual Sounding Board's Facebook page.Editor's note: One of the most poisonous teachings in the world of both Quiverfull and Evangelical Christianity is that your own feelings and emotions are a sin. They take the notion that anything you think or feel is sinful when if you take an objective look at the Ten Commandments all of the rules stem from actions, not thoughts or emotions. Demonizing emotion is a good way to ensure your flock stays feeling guilty at all times and firmly under the control of the cult leader. … [Read more...]

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