Quoting Quiverfull: Shut Up About Your Bad Marriage Because God is Using it to ‘Refine’ You?

by John Piper of Desiring God and The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood as lifted and reposted by Lori Alexander's blog Always Learning - The Cost of Covenant Keeping LoveEditor's note: Wow, talk about dangerous tripe, this entire piece, including the parts I did not quote for brevity's sake. There's even a section where it says you can never consider divorce, ever ever, that you must erase the word from your mind. What this 'stay married' post does not take into account are the many marriages that are abusive, either physically or mentally, the marriages that flounder because there is no earthly way for either partner to meet the needs of the family and a myriad of other awful … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: You Must Be Feminine or Else?

by Abigail Dodds from John Piper's Desiring God - The Beauty of WomanhoodEditor's note: So working outside of the home robs us of our beauty and femininity? Also, why does working and not staying home with our children equal disrespecting our uteruses? No one accuses stay at home fathers of disrespecting their gonads. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Women Are Only Saved Through Childbearing?

by John Piper of Desiring God - How Are Women Saved Though Childbearing?Editor's note: Childbearing is no 'curse' laid upon women from the time of Eve. It's a biological fact of the replenishment of the species. Another example of simple scientific facts used to support the idea that women are lesser or must submit. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Suffering is Totally Okay Because Glory?

by John Piper from Desiring God - Your Suffering is Working For YouEditor's note: Some subtle martyrbating going on here, claiming that God is using your suffering on earth for your eternal good. This is one of the more poisonous teachings in evangelical Christianity and it really minimizes whatever it is that the suffering person is going through by reducing it to part of some formula. Not much empathy there, is it? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Sex Is Only For Christians?

by John Piper from Desiring God - Sex Belongs to BelieversEditor's note: Sounds like Piper thinks only married Christians, the 'right' kind of married Christians are the only ones that should be having any sort of sex. Good luck with that. I really really do not want to think about John Piper and sex. This is just another thing that Christians claim belongs only to believers, a sort of Christian privilege. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Adopting To Fill Quiver?

by Bridget and Voddie Baucham at John Piper's Desiring God - Adoption Improved the Perfect Little FamilyEditor's note: Good example of someone doing kid collecting for quiverfull by using adoption. Guessing that perhaps Bridget had a tubal ligation after baby number two and wasn't a good candidate for the reversal surgery. Watching good trying to be quiverfull Christians struggle to fill their quiver and add children to the family can be as sad as what infertile couples go through. The pressure to conform is so strong in fundamentalist quiverfull churches and there are always people that will be either telling you that you're doing it wrong, or this is all due to some sin in your life if … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Making Jokes Leads To Infidelity?

by Ben Reaoch from John Piper's Desiring God - Life Is Short, Love Your SpouseEditor's note: While most of the advice on how to avoid having an affair is reasonable and good this little bit about humor is just sort of out there. I'm always amazed at the situations that extreme Christians claim can cause you to fall into sin. If every single thing on this planet causes you to sin then what options do you have? Infidelity is a conscience choice, not some random event that happens to you without your permission. Man up about the reality of it please. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Grooming Your Pubes Is A Sin?

by John Piper of The Counsel on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood as quoted by Newslo - Pastor John Piper: "Women Who Wax Their Private Parts Are Hurting God's Work"ETA: Apparently Newslo is another one of those 'satire' sites that aren't clearly marked as satire. Snopes says this quote is not from Piper, but they also says Newslo has a disclaimer but there isn't a clear one anywhere on the page I found this information. Who knows. Take this quote with a boulder of salt.Editor's note: Are  you kidding me? Piper is seeking to control what his followers do with their own personal private parts? These guys just love creating new rules and delving into minutia, don't they? In the rest of … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: We Are All Just Selfaholics?

by Jon Bloom of Desiring God and as quoted by Ladies Against Feminism - Live Your Assignment!Editor's note: Word salad about sin and pride. No dressing. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: A Sermon Without Jesus is Just Like Gluten Free Bread?

by Phillip Bethancourt from John Piper's Desiring God blog - Beware Gluten-Free PreachingEditor's note: Had to share this bad analogy that has created interesting debate on some online groups. The original author does not come right out and diss those that stick to a GF diet but he hints that it's a fad by comparing gluten free bread to sermons without Jesus. He also quotes Charles Spurgeon. He doesn't seem to realize that true wheat allergy is a thing, one of the top ten food allergies, and that there are a wide variety of health reasons people avoid wheat flour, but instead behaves as though not eating wheat bread is some sort of faddish failing. How many of us here have become … [Read more...]


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