Quoting Quiverfull: Part 1 – Polygamy and the ‘Biblical’ Man?

by Vaughn Ohlman of The Practical Theonomist and Let Them Marry - Is Polygamy Forbidden in the Scripture?Editor's note: While Mr. Ohlman is rushing around doing damage control and erasing/rewriting large swaths of Let Them Marry so that it doesn't make him sound quite as creepy as "Game of Thrones" Craster he's completely neglected the many other blogs he's written on. Many of the same thoughts and toxic rules for marrying are on all the other sites. Here's a bit about polygamy where Von is trying to debate someone else. The person he is debating remarks are in bolded italics, Von's are in plain text. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Woman Don’t Tell ME What to Do?

by Kirk Cameron at Christian Today - Kirk Cameron Shares Secret to Happy MarriageEditor's note: This has been blowing up all over the internet and entertainment websites for the last week. Initially I wasn't even going to share this because it's just such a milder version of the complementarian theology pushed by the Quiverfull movement. It feels almost 'liberal' to say that husbands should not tell their wives to submit. It's far less shocking and disturbing than anything we've seen from the Campbells or the Pearls. But here it is. What do you think? … [Read more...]

Answering ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’ – Different Calling?

Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical,  rational and the best possible solution, in other words 1 … [Read more...]

It’s Not That Complicated: Part 2 Chapter 8

by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids CollideQuotes from the book in blue textToday, dear readers, you get a special treat!First - no covert incest!Second, to help you better visualize what the actual book is like, I've included a quote that is a fairly standard page of uninterrupted Botkin language.  Technically, I should have included the entirety of the first paragraph, but decided to spare you some pointless emotional babbling along with minor slams against the girls who ask Anna Sofia and Elizabeth for advice so we could start at the main point of this section. … [Read more...]

Answering ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’ – Biblical Engagement?

Another installment of giving better answers to the questions asked at Debi Pearl’s site message board for the book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’. Many young ladies ask questions on all sorts of different subjects brought up by the book. There was just one big problem, many of the answers stray into either the outright bad and emotionally unhealthy to dangerous. Yes, typical Debi Pearl borderline abusive. Here’s what we’re going to be doing here at NLQ. Every week, once or twice a week, I’ll be posting up one of the questions from the message board and ask you, our readers, to answer that poor soul’s question in a way that is logical,  rational and the best possible solution, in other words 1 … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Mothers Must Give All?

by Abigail Dodds of John Piper's The Counsel for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood - 5 Truth For Our DaughtersEditor's note: This is a not a completely toxic ideas article. In some of the unquoted parts it talks about accepting your looks and body as they are and that not every woman will marry and have children. But this part could have been written by any other typical Quiverfull female cultural enforcer, like Nancy Campbell or Debi Pearl. The idea that if you do manage to marry you must only be a wife and mother to exclusion of all else. It's simply not that black and white. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Getting Married is an Accomplishment?

by Vaughn Ohlman from Let Them Marry - The Accomplishment of Miss PuffingtonEditor's note: Vaughn is speaking of a Huffington Post writer who is talking about her own engagement and marriage as something to celebrate but not an actual accomplishment. For the record her name is not 'Miss Puffington' Your thoughts? Accomplishment or just usual life stage? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Get Over Your Selfish Lack of Desire For Your Husband?

by Larry Solomon from Biblical Gender Roles - I Was Never Attracted to My Husband Does God Want Me to Fake it? - no links to this because Do Not Link.com is still down.Editor's note: Larry has been very busy lately, writing columns about how women cannot have it all, if women wearing pants is Biblical and all manner of political posts supporting Donald Trump and putting down John Kasich. I'm only quoting this one outrageous piece where he compares sexual attraction to food preferences. We all know how well it works out when some fundamentalist decides to compare sex to food, don't we? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: How to Kill Your Marriage?

by Stacy McDonald from Your Sacred Calling - How to Tear Down Your Own HouseEditor's note: Stacy has a list, and she's checking it twice, of things that kill your marriage. Granted, some of those things aren't good to do in marriage but if there is one thing life has taught me is that no two marriages are the same. What works for one is not going to necessarily work for another. There is no formula. Not even Stacy has a lock on it. Does anyone really still watch soap operas any longer? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: If You Want Your Man to Find You Attractive You Have to ‘Earn’ it?

by Larry Solomon of Biblical Gender Roles – What if I Don’t Have an Hour Glass Figure as always safely linked through Do Not LinkEditor's note: Here we get to the last part of this entire body shaming screed of Larry's, his take on weight and marriage. He thinks it's perfectly fine for men to gain weight after they've married, but insists that women do not gain weight if possible because they have to 'earn' their husband's love, acceptance and attraction. What a punitive punishing thought! Starting to sound like a set up to justify bringing another wife in and practicing polygamy. … [Read more...]


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