Quoting Quiverfull – Lori Alexander Modesty Police?

by Lori Alexander on Facebook and on Things Godly Women Say - Spanking ThongsEditor's note: You may notice it's been a few days since there was a posting. I am right in the middle of my international move to Costa Rica and have driving down to the New Orleans area to visit relatives and ship my car from the port of New Orleans. Postings may be spotty and not as frequently until after I get settled. I fly out on the 23rd and  none of my elderly relatives here in South Louisiana have wifi, or any internet. I've haven't forgotten you or this place, I'm just in transition. … [Read more...]

Questioning the Pearls – Spank Them Happy?

For well over a year we’ve been running a second Answering ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’ on Sundays, filled with questions by young ladies trying to get ready for marriage. Since we’ve run through many of the questions on their site it’s time to shift Sundays to something else, like perhaps examining the cornucopia of probably fake emails and questions that Michael and Debi Pearl of No Greater Joy post on their website and the possibly poisonous answers they give. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Spoiled Unspanked Children?

by Lori Alexander from The Transformed Wife - Don't Pamper Your ChildrenEditor's note: Is there some fundamentalist world calendar that causes QF enforcers to all write about similar subjects at the same time? I am finding a lot of 'Don't Spoil Just Spank' posts on the usual peoples blogs today. In the unquoted bits of this piece Lori explains you just have to 'be firm' and 'not allow' certain behaviors like tantrums to turn out perfectly obedient children before she makes the huge leap to say that those kids allowed to get away with the things she considers bad behavior are doomed to awful lives. I don't think it's much of a leap from her words about awful lives to the hell and … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Spank Children to Save Their Souls?

by Steven Anderson from Faithful Word Baptist Church - Positive Only ParentingEditor's note: While some folks go overboard on the participation trophies thing showing gratitude for cooperation is still a better plan than beating the bejesus out of a kid that has forgotten to take out the trash. Why are frightening children with threats instead of guiding someone with positive words the go-to move in this movement? If you read the unquoted parts of this piece Steven tells what has to be a highly fictionalized story of a pre school that refuses to ever say 'no' to a child's behavior. Why hasn't CPS been called on the Anderson family if it's all beatings and threats of eternal damnation? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Don’t Go Too Nutty Over Homeschooling?

by Steve Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church - Overboard on HomeschoolingEditor's note: I believe what we're looking at here is jealous at its finest. Right before this post Anderson wrote one attacking Paul Washer, who he mentions here while attacking Michael Pearl. I cannot believe I am about to say this, but based upon the measure Anderson gives here Pearl almost sounds less toxic with his belief that humans inborn nature is to do right. Too bad I've never actually seen where Michael Pearl has stated that. Is it possible that Anderson didn't actually read much of any of Pearl's writings because I've never seen anything that Pearl has written that didn't order you to beat the … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: It’s Not Child Abuse Unless I Say So?

by Lori Alexander from Always Learning - Attack on Traditional Child TrainingEditor's note: Just because you were spanked does not make it right. Lori uses in the full piece the fact that she, her husband and Mr. Pearl were spanked as justification for continuing to hit in the face of overwhelming research that proves it's the exact opposite of what they claim. It does harm. It is abuse. It is banned many places for legitimate reasons. Which makes me thankful she's no longer in the classroom and possibly wielding a wooden paddle. Hitting a child is never right, most people discipline their children by having consequences for behavior that aren't abusive, not yelling. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 6 – Questioning the Pearls

by Michael Pearl from No Greater Joy magazine – But I Wanted to Ask Mr. PearlEditor's note: Oh my word! She's upset that she didn't learn to spank her child early on? I wonder if she's ever considered the 'Love and Logic' series instead of 'To Train Up A Child'? Can Michael give child training advice that does not lead to beating a child with a rod of correction? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 3 – How to Beat Your Children?

by Michael Pearl from No Greater Joy – In Defense of Biblical ChastisementEditor's note: No matter how Michael words it the story about spanking the five month old in the car seat is always wrong! A child that age isn't capable of rebellion, defiance or understanding what his mother wants him to do. He's acting/reacting in an elemental way without reasoned measured thought. This is child cruelty. Notice how quickly Michael Pearl goes into 'The Rod' section? … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 1 – Nip What in the Bud?

by Debi Pearl from No Greater Joy - Nip It In The BudEditor's note: Another you're doing parenting wrong piece from the Pearls. In this one they condemn a man for beating his son. I cannot for the life of me figure out why the parent didn't diffuse the situation by taking an action like picking up the toddler after the first or second time he kicked the adult visitor, or by stopping to tell the child at that exact point to knock it off in a friendly manner. Why are all parenting interactions so extreme in Pearl world? I also question the validity of the story just from the physical difficulty of kicking and waving handfuls of rock in the air at the same time. That toddler must have had … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 5 – Michael Pearl Defending His Strawman?

by Michael Pearl from No Greater Joy – Spank and Save a ChildEditor's  note: So now Michael finally cites some verifiable sources, but it is only to claim it's his right as a parent to spank and that his types of beatings are not abusive like most other folks. Just because you call a pig a princess doesn't mean that it's wearing a crown and not in a barnyard. Everyone else can clearly see that the poor pig holds none of the attributes of royalty and that it's likely still coated in mud from the sty. It just means you cannot clearly see what is before you. … [Read more...]