Quoting Quiverfull: Do It For The Menfolks?

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by Anna Sophia Botkin of Visionary Daughters and reposted at Ladies Against Feminism - What is Okay For a Girl to Do? from their new book/audio message 'Adventurous Femininity'As women we see our lives in terms of helping men with the challenges, quests, wars, and adventures. We need to be very careful that we don’t pursue a brand of femininity that is so obsessed with it’s own girliness, that it can’t get it’s hands dirty with real dominion.  Feminism, there is a lot more to that than women who dress up in pinstriped power suits and do man’s work. Essentially feminism is the desire to be autonomous. It’s the desire to be independent from a man and out from under his authority and this … [Read more...]

Lourdes, Lifeboats, and Bounded Choice: The Complicated Process of Exiting Totalist Groups Part 3

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by Cindy Kunsman cross posted from Spiritual Sounding Board Using Katie Botkin’s lifeboat analogy, Cindy Kunsman explores the “Second Generation Adult” and Lourdes Torres-Mantefeuel’s alleged sex abuse by Vision Forum’s Doug Phillips By Cindy Kunsman, UnderMuchGrace.com On the same day that Lourdes Torres-Manteufel’s petition was filed, the first cousin of Vision Forum’s Stay at Home Daughter evangelists/role models published a blog essay that I found deeply moving. Katie Botkin, the daughter of Geoffrey Botkin‘s brother Greg, noted that attorney David C. Gibbs III filed the documents on the anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic. Doug Phillips used the event as a talking point and cele … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: God Wants Daughters In Waiting To Wait At Home?

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by Jenny McGinnis at Above Rubies - Daughters in Waiting: Finished School? What Now? Upon reaching the age of 18 and officially graduating from our family home school, I immediately met with very intense pressure from friends, teachers, and others to pursue a profession, attend college and even move out and get a "place of my own."  Many people assured me this would enable me to become a successful, independent career woman. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: The Unmarried Are Always Under the Headship of Their Fathers?

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by Suzannah Rowntree at Ladies Against Feminism - Unmarried Women and the Things of the Lord This verse does not command us how things are supposed to be. Rather it describes a tendency, a weakness, among married women to please their husbands above God. The same tendency does not apply as strongly to unmarried women, even in their own families, but if it does, the Lord still tells us we must “hate” our parents and siblings. … [Read more...]

Quoting Quiverfull: Winning Your Father’s Heart?

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by Anna Sophia and Elizabeth Botkin from Visionary Daughters - "Visionary Daughters Interviewed" We see a particular need for girls to build better relationships with their fathers, as the effects of this relationship spill over into so many other areas of their lives — they way they view God, the way they relate to men, the way they view themselves, … [Read more...]

Now What?

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by MariI voted for the first time in the year 2000.Three months later, I got a jury summons.Uck.The cool thing about it was that it paid $25 per day, … [Read more...]

Christianity and Christian Patriarchy are not the same thing

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by SierraA moment of clarification: If you read my previous post and thought I was issuing a call to arms against the Christian religion, please be aware of this distinction. The Christian Patriarchy movement is a … [Read more...]

A Love That Multiplies ~ The Duggar's New Book

by HopewellRegular readers of this blog know that I watch TLC's "19 Kids and Counting--" a reality show featuring the family of Jim-B0b and Michelle Duggar. I make some people very happy with my blog posts on this family and get flames from others. Such is life!! So, when I spotted a used copy of their new book so I could "buy used and save the difference," just like the Duggar's recommend, I knew I'd have to review it here!Like everything Duggar there is much to admire here: some good tips about listening to your children, listening to your spouse, spending time as a family, spending time in God's word, gathering together with other believers, living debt free, controlling your anger, … [Read more...]

My Courtship Story ~ Part 8: Courtship Is Not The Answer

by Young Mom @ Permission to LiveLooking back, I like many things about our story. I love that we were very honest about our needs and desires as we understood them at the time. I can imagine it would be more difficult to fall in love with someone and then find out afterwards they don’t want children and you do. I can see the benefits of being straightforward and asking the tough questions right away.On the other hand, there were things that we could not talk about as well. Religious questions weren’t really that relevant, because we were so enmeshed in our families, we hardly had any beliefs that were truly ours, they were all dictated by our families. There are other tough issues that c … [Read more...]

My Courtship Story ~ Part 7: I Do

by Young Mom @ Permission to LiveWe spent most of our time together at our family homes, so we also spent a lot of our time together trying to evade family. Since we were engaged we were allowed to go on short excursions alone to public places. So we ran errands for the wedding, like picking up my wedding dress after the alterations were finished, or running to the mall to pick out "Hunk"’s wedding band. When we were around my house, we went for lots of walks together, and I even took him up to my secret spot on the garage roof where we could be alone.At the end of June (about 3 weeks out from the wedding) I went on another trip with "Hunk" and his family. We all flew out to spend a week … [Read more...]


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